Author Topic: Fifa 16 (Read 3191 times)

Kiwi · « **Reply #30 on:** October 20, 2015, 08:54:52 pm »

Great pull Eric! Love the guy! One of the first to break the 100-game barrier for us.

gladiatorrrrrr · « **Reply #31 on:** October 20, 2015, 09:43:32 pm »

nice pull Eric!

@ hyper pressure: I think I can manage once I got more games played. As I said,, this is not an easy pick up and play game if you face them. Setting the camera to coop also helps a lot, you easily find the open spaces (tip from TWS last year).

EricCartman No1 · « **Reply #32 on:** October 20, 2015, 10:07:00 pm »

Quote from: Kiwi on October 20, 2015, 08:54:52 pm

Great pull Eric! Love the guy! One of the first to break the 100-game barrier for us.

Good to hear. First impressions were very good actually. Tempted to keep him. Before i pulled him i had been looking at getting Isco for the CAM role. Have you tried Isco?

Nophut · « **Reply #33 on:** October 20, 2015, 10:47:37 pm »

Quote from: gladiatorrrrrr on October 20, 2015, 09:43:32 pm

Setting the camera to coop also helps a lot, you easily find the open spaces (tip from TWS last year).

Will def try that!

TWS001 · « **Reply #34 on:** October 21, 2015, 12:06:23 am »

The settings are Co-op camera, maximum height (20) and no zoom (0). Takes a bit of getting used to if you haven't used it before, especially with making standing tackles in defence.
It is hugely important in helping find the gaps and free men though. Also helps cover gaps when they get some crazy interception and counter attack.

Dealing with high pressure of the manic kind is the big challenge of 16. It is twice as hard as previously due to several things. The interceptions, the first touch and control needed to make good passes, the random wildly missplaced passes, and the inability of refs to call blatent fouls. As has been said there will be gaps, but finding is harder this year because of the reasons I've listed. I think the key is to evade the initial onrushing man. This isn't easy but if you manage it you have space and an out of position opponent.
Shielding doesn't work because they just run straight through you and the refs are useless. Stepovers and exit isn't as good this year, ball rolls are decent in right situation and L2 R2 could be helpful or maybe fakeshot exit. It's something I'm working on. It's all about evading that initial man.

Nophut · « **Reply #35 on:** October 21, 2015, 01:07:06 am »

Quote from: TWS001 on October 21, 2015, 12:06:23 am

The settings are Co-op camera, maximum height (20) and no zoom (0). Takes a bit of getting used to if you haven't used it before, especially with making standing tackles in defence.
It is hugely important in helping find the gaps and free men though. Also helps cover gaps when they get some crazy interception and counter attack.

Dealing with high pressure of the manic kind is the big challenge of 16. It is twice as hard as previously due to several things. The interceptions, the first touch and control needed to make good passes, the random wildly missplaced passes, and the inability of refs to call blatent fouls. As has been said there will be gaps, but finding is harder this year because of the reasons I've listed. I think the key is to evade the initial onrushing man. This isn't easy but if you manage it you have space and an out of position opponent.
Shielding doesn't work because they just run straight through you and the refs are useless. Stepovers and exit isn't as good this year, ball rolls are decent in right situation and L2 R2 could be helpful or maybe fakeshot exit. It's something I'm working on. It's all about evading that initial man.

So long as it doesn't end up being like a game of SWOS!

TWS001 · « **Reply #36 on:** October 21, 2015, 01:21:54 am »

Quote from: Nophut on October 21, 2015, 01:07:06 am

Quote from: TWS001 on October 21, 2015, 12:06:23 am
The settings are Co-op camera, maximum height (20) and no zoom (0). Takes a bit of getting used to if you haven't used it before, especially with making standing tackles in defence.
It is hugely important in helping find the gaps and free men though. Also helps cover gaps when they get some crazy interception and counter attack.

Dealing with high pressure of the manic kind is the big challenge of 16. It is twice as hard as previously due to several things. The interceptions, the first touch and control needed to make good passes, the random wildly missplaced passes, and the inability of refs to call blatent fouls. As has been said there will be gaps, but finding is harder this year because of the reasons I've listed. I think the key is to evade the initial onrushing man. This isn't easy but if you manage it you have space and an out of position opponent.
Shielding doesn't work because they just run straight through you and the refs are useless. Stepovers and exit isn't as good this year, ball rolls are decent in right situation and L2 R2 could be helpful or maybe fakeshot exit. It's something I'm working on. It's all about evading that initial man.

So long as it doesn't end up being like a game of SWOS!

Not quite that small! Basically the Pro Clubs camera. I couldn't play without it now.

Cuz · « **Reply #37 on:** October 21, 2015, 02:45:11 am »

Starting to think I've just not encountered much hyper pressure. Div 6 ofc and not played much cup.
I just play to the full backs/CBs for a couple yards of space, hit a crossfield pass to the opposing full back and then work a player into the space they leave with a few passes.
I used to use the 3rd man running all the time in attack, it's the same kind of thing in defence, kind of why I'm liking high attack full backs. As the wide/centre mid get closed down on those initial passes, the full back moves into the space the pressing has left.
Saying that, I do still get caught in possession with the full backs at times. Too slow on the pass back when the mids have all decided to run off up the pitch. Got some good dribbling full backs tho and they don't have too much trouble side stepping a pressing opposition fwd.
The two areas I struggle are in creating/finishing chances, I need to get more variety/less hesitancy in my play there. Defending against dribblers, mainly because I don't actually use tackle at all, never have done but this year the auto tackle is kinda nerfed, they'll stand off forever or they just don't react so well when you release contain and move for the ball....

Nophut · « **Reply #38 on:** October 21, 2015, 03:04:59 am »

Quote from: Cuz on October 21, 2015, 02:45:11 am

Defending against dribblers, mainly because I don't actually use tackle at all, never have done but this year the auto tackle is kinda nerfed, they'll stand off forever or they just don't react so well when you release contain and move for the ball....

Same.
Dribblers kill me. And of course, goes without saying that once they realise that, it's all they do.
I also never used to actually tackle. I used to jockey/contain (whatever) and bring a second player to crowd the player out.
This no longer seems to work. They now just seem to go stand near the guy and follow him around, like his mate..

And if I as much as go near anyone in the box. Pen.

Really really struggling to defend. Like, at all.

Going forward I think I am actually better than I was when I quit 15 (which isn't hard, granted).
Creating and scoring a few. But then I love to pass, pass, pass, pass...

Cuz · « **Reply #39 on:** October 21, 2015, 04:12:07 am »

I've never actually used the 2nd man either. Player switching has always been my thing but that's a bit iffy this year too.
Basically, I would chase/anticipate and herd the attacker with my 1st guy, normally a mid, then switch and semi contain with the 2nd, a goalside defender, often stepping away from them a bit so I could tackle them after an inevitable skill move. If that didn't do the job on its own, I'd switch again and move for the ball with the 1st guy or a 3rd one even, depending on the switch.
Without meaning to boast, I was a bloody awesome defender on previous FIFAs considering I never tackled or used a 2nd defender button, lol.
On 16, sometimes when I switch for the 1st guy, I get someone I've got no use for OR I switch to the 2nd guy as he helpfully steps out of a goalside position. The 3rd panic switch is then uselessly random and followed by another 5 panic switches to static defenders while the dribbler casually strolls directly ahead and scores.

I think the answer to that is probably in selecting the switch with the right stick, something else I've never done.
It actually wouldn't be half as bad if the 2nd defender wasn't stupidly anticipating the attacker continuing fwd in a straight line and stepping out of the way before I get to him. I get goalside but the attacker turns, so I need to switch, boom, CB steps neatly behind whoever I just switched from. 2 defenders standing on a sixpence with a nice gaping hole in front of goal right next to them...

I'm sure it's all in these vastly complicated extra control commands somewhere...

Nophut · « **Reply #40 on:** October 21, 2015, 05:43:34 am »

Quote from: Cuz on October 21, 2015, 04:12:07 am

I've never actually used the 2nd man either. Player switching has always been my thing but that's a bit iffy this year too.
Basically, I would chase/anticipate and herd the attacker with my 1st guy, normally a mid, then switch and semi contain with the 2nd, a goalside defender, often stepping away from them a bit so I could tackle them after an inevitable skill move. If that didn't do the job on its own, I'd switch again and move for the ball with the 1st guy or a 3rd one even, depending on the switch.
Without meaning to boast, I was a bloody awesome defender on previous FIFAs considering I never tackled or used a 2nd defender button, lol.
On 16, sometimes when I switch for the 1st guy, I get someone I've got no use for OR I switch to the 2nd guy as he helpfully steps out of a goalside position. The 3rd panic switch is then uselessly random and followed by another 5 panic switches to static defenders while the dribbler casually strolls directly ahead and scores.

I think the answer to that is probably in selecting the switch with the right stick, something else I've never done.
It actually wouldn't be half as bad if the 2nd defender wasn't stupidly anticipating the attacker continuing fwd in a straight line and stepping out of the way before I get to him. I get goalside but the attacker turns, so I need to switch, boom, CB steps neatly behind whoever I just switched from. 2 defenders standing on a sixpence with a nice gaping hole in front of goal right next to them...

I'm sure it's all in these vastly complicated extra control commands somewhere...

Well, I have found the best form of defence to be not letting them have the ball in the first place.
Something else that is of course, more difficult in this game

Overall, this is a good game I say.
It's just that damned uber-pressure... It's a farce.
Hoping that I can make it work against them using the TPS top tips.

Kiwi · « **Reply #41 on:** October 21, 2015, 05:46:02 am »

Quote from: EricCartman No1 on October 20, 2015, 10:07:00 pm

Quote from: Kiwi on October 20, 2015, 08:54:52 pm
Great pull Eric! Love the guy! One of the first to break the 100-game barrier for us.
Good to hear. First impressions were very good actually. Tempted to keep him. Before i pulled him i had been looking at getting Isco for the CAM role. Have you tried Isco?

Yeah - pulled him in one of our early packs and decided to keep him, given our fantastic his SIF was last year.

They are quite similar (yep - that's the obvious statement

) with Iniesta having the advantage on more passing/defending whilst Isco has the better shooting. Again, obvious when looking at stats & this does show in-game.

Having both in one team makes it hard - especially when playing a 3-man midfield & them next to one another. Even if the third guy is very defensive, it's an unbalanced midfield. So, you need to choose one or the other.

If you're looking for the CAM to focus on creating space, killer through-ball, etc ... Iniesta. If you're going to get close to goal with him and shoot, then Isco is better. Thinking back, we had better performances from Iniesta where he was behind 2 strikers - less reliance on his shooting. But, now playing 433-4, Isco feels better as the CAM. Isco's woeful defending stat also makes you want to use him there, rather than the CM position.

TWS001 · « **Reply #42 on:** October 21, 2015, 06:36:54 am »

@Cuz, you'll know when you face the hyper high pressure! I went through a terrible spell of it but last night and this morning didn't face it and had some decent matches.

Nophut · « **Reply #43 on:** October 21, 2015, 07:31:20 am »

Quote from: TWS001 on October 21, 2015, 06:36:54 am

@Cuz, you'll know when you face the hyper high pressure! I went through a terrible spell of it but last night and this morning didn't face it and had some decent matches.

Same here. Spent two nights without any sin of it, then the next two sessions were riddled with it.
Really is a decent game without that.

Kiwi · « **Reply #44 on:** November 23, 2015, 08:40:36 am »

So ... prices

Interesting to see this on FUTBIN - "IndexGold" - this is the 'daily' chart for XB1 and PS4:

Haven't really been checking so not sure if there have been 100k/50k packs - can see the 25k ones now. That is a bit of a drop! And this BEFORE Black Friday.

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