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Re: FUT Champions Cup by TWS001
August 19, 2017, 08:47:42 pm

Re: FUT Champions Cup by Kiwi
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Re: FUT Champions Cup by TWS001
August 18, 2017, 08:43:48 am

Re: FUT Champions Cup by TWS001
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Re: FUT Champions Cup by Kiwi
August 16, 2017, 06:50:51 am

Author Topic: Skills | Tactics | Tutorials  (Read 352 times)

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Re: Skills | Tactics | Tutorials
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2014, 06:30:21 am »
Further to that OT ... just read this on the dark side - http://forum.ea.com/uk/posts/list/2973028.page

Enter that long shot competition ...

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Re: Skills | Tactics | Tutorials
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2014, 07:48:54 am »
It has changed quite a bit. Runners are now dead in the water. Making the most of laughing at them the next few days until they realise that doesn't work anymore. Defenders AI seems to be better and it is harder to create clear goalscoring opportunities. Also defenders seem to have better tackles and this unfortunately seems to mean that the auto tackle to back to previous levels.
The passing is different, but I have did ok yesterday and won more than I lost, and have a good start in Division 5, where I kept out runners with ease.
It seems a bit more like H2H, but I haven't played anywhere near enough since the patch to make any definite judgements. Also yet to see any big differences in longshots but I guess if they are easier will see it more and more as people catch on, especially the runners who will really have to change their play.
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Re: Skills | Tactics | Tutorials
« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2014, 07:52:50 am »
There appears to be inconsistency in what has changed - some even saying they have not felt a change. The good old connection issue can be thrown in there too.

I'll only be on later this afternoon, but will definitely be trying some long shots out :P.

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Re: Skills | Tactics | Tutorials
« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2014, 09:07:28 am »
It's definitely changed. The pacey players can't just run full speed without any loss of control or speed if they change direction. So much easier to defend against them now. I just can't be bothered to play it tonight, but being off work for 7 out of the next 9 days due to new shift patterns to cover Christmas, means there'll be plenty of chance to play it at some point.
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Re: Skills | Tactics | Tutorials
« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2014, 09:12:45 am »
read the link kiwi posted, i concur with most of the comments par long shots ... am i complaining? no, i was not running anyway, also had to mention that there are more corner goals now.


its so strange how game changes to a new different level with just 1 update ...

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Re: Skills | Tactics | Tutorials
« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2014, 10:26:47 am »
Now I think about it, I did score one longshot yesterday that had me in shock. I was 2-2 in extra time (after being 2-0 down), when out of nowhere, IF Mustafi appeared on the left wing. The oppo stood off so I moved it to his right foot and hit it from near the corner of the box and it flew into the opposite top corner. Can also remember a couple of headers from crosses that I scored with Mayuka and IF Senturk. Think I'd prefer this than runners though.
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Re: Skills | Tactics | Tutorials
« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2014, 07:54:13 pm »
Played quite a few matches last night. The games is now FUT 13-14 version 1.5. The amount of BS is so much higher, some of the goals I saw yesterday, both for and against, I've not seen since season on FUT14. Crosses seem a lot more like 14. Not quite as bad but it does seem that there are more headers going in.
The worst things is that high pressure is back to FUT13 levels. The ball being slowed down and the ability of players to turn and receive the ball being lower means ridiculous high pressure is the tactic that the majority have turned back to. Some games were as bad as playing against Brazil 352 teams on 13. This together with parking the bus means I've seen plenty of games with 2 shots on goal between the two teams.
I think it was better before the patch, and that's saying something. Runners was better than the BS messy hell that has been unleashed now.

That's for PS3 though so don't know if this applies to PS4 or xbox.
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IF Balotelli - 126
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Ben Arfa - 104
IF Balotelli - 80
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Smalling - 36
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Kante - 31

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Re: Skills | Tactics | Tutorials
« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2014, 08:26:46 pm »
only played 4 games myself but sofar I find

- runners to be effective as before
- defenders a little bit more off
- and suddenly corners/headers are going in (in my case a 95th minute equalizer  >:( )
- ball control look silly but could be because I was using Tevez, Vidal, etc.


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Re: Skills | Tactics | Tutorials
« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2014, 05:52:38 am »
Played quite a few matches last night. The games is now FUT 13-14 version 1.5. The amount of BS is so much higher, some of the goals I saw yesterday, both for and against, I've not seen since season on FUT14. Crosses seem a lot more like 14. Not quite as bad but it does seem that there are more headers going in.
The worst things is that high pressure is back to FUT13 levels. The ball being slowed down and the ability of players to turn and receive the ball being lower means ridiculous high pressure is the tactic that the majority have turned back to. Some games were as bad as playing against Brazil 352 teams on 13. This together with parking the bus means I've seen plenty of games with 2 shots on goal between the two teams.
I think it was better before the patch, and that's saying something. Runners was better than the BS messy hell that has been unleashed now.

That's for PS3 though so don't know if this applies to PS4 or xbox.

agree for most of the part ... not complaining tough, with another update, there will be perfect balance :)

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Re: Skills | Tactics | Tutorials
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2014, 05:57:49 am »
the OP http://forum.ea.com/uk/posts/list/2973752.page
funny what he is complaining about ... losing on a high scoring game  :-\

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Re: Skills | Tactics | Tutorials
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2014, 07:19:14 am »
I think I've seen more headers from open play crosses and corners this weekend then in the whole of the rest of the time the game has been out. They are definitely stronger now.
Been a lot written about the patch on the darkside in various threads, been on and off it most of the day, but passing and possession play is not dead. No way at all. After about 20 games now post patch it's apparent that you've got to be a bit more careful and have the right angle to play the pass, but you can still rip teams apart with the right balls and weight on the pass. I've got 5 goals in my two games so far tonight and one move started by my corner flag and ended a dozen passes later with Al Sharami slamming on in from the edge of the box.
The problem is high pressure and parking the bus is more difficult to break down but it can be done. Give it time to get used to and we'll be ok.
It's not far removed from FUT14 right now. Very close to that I believe.
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Re: Skills | Tactics | Tutorials
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2014, 08:00:01 am »
Yeah TWS - have been reading on that side too.

For me, missing out on the last 3 months of '14 & not being able to play co-op at all, makes the comparison a lot tougher.

Post patch - as you say, the passing is 'different'. At times the simple passes are not going were I'm expecting. I genuinely do not have a problem with that, as I'm expecting the football simulation rather than the arcade game. I take on board the fact that working at it means you'll get better, and that is a positive.

it appears that the park-the-bus strategy is indeed something to work on breaking down - agree that more patience is required.

FYI ... this is our last 10 games list. Irritated I cannot go back and get more as there were 2 rage quits preceding the 4-1 win.


Summary: 8-2-0 with GF - 35 & GA - 13. We are not struggling to score & the key frustration being the rage quits.

Ah, must add that the overall connections were fantastic over the weekend. Seems like we're constantly being matched with our zone again. thank goodness for that. There is still lag at times, but nothing like it was on previous weekends.

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Re: Skills | Tactics | Tutorials
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2014, 08:04:42 am »
After dreadful lag recently, I've had none at all since the patch. PS3 getting the latency bar back has helped because I've backed out at least 10 games where it's been yellow, red, or bouncing around between green and yellow.
It's not all bad news at least! They have done more good than usual this year. BS moments have been frequent since the patch though.
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Ben Arfa - 104
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Kante - 31

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Florenzi - 5
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Re: Skills | Tactics | Tutorials
« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2014, 08:14:44 am »
I do think it's the ability to adjust. The inevitable whining will always be there as people have not yet transitioned.

Comments like 'defending is now easier for opponents & cannot break them down' vs 'ability to contain runners is easier due to defenders not screwing up'. Seriously, what do people want?!

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« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2014, 11:25:21 am »
I think I've seen more headers from open play crosses and corners this weekend then in the whole of the rest of the time the game has been out. They are definitely stronger now.
Been a lot written about the patch on the darkside in various threads, been on and off it most of the day, but passing and possession play is not dead. No way at all. After about 20 games now post patch it's apparent that you've got to be a bit more careful and have the right angle to play the pass, but you can still rip teams apart with the right balls and weight on the pass. I've got 5 goals in my two games so far tonight and one move started by my corner flag and ended a dozen passes later with Al Sharami slamming on in from the edge of the box.
The problem is high pressure and parking the bus is more difficult to break down but it can be done. Give it time to get used to and we'll be ok.
It's not far removed from FUT14 right now. Very close to that I believe.

so true with the wing play, corners and crosses. also hv seen a lot of air lob bass, lets all welcome that. passing is different, a bit weak compared to pre patch, i was like 80-90 pct pre patch, now down, more realistic, definitely will adjust in time. bellushi and semih is scoring for me nowadays. semih is amazing, at least in div 7.