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Title: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on June 13, 2016, 06:59:31 am
So we now there is a new engine coming after years of this one, but the latest trailer makes me wonder if it's going to be some sort of GTA / FIFA hybrid game!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P9LHzVEPodg

Guess we may learn more when E3 happens soon.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on June 13, 2016, 08:20:45 am
Yeah - I was watching that livestream & saw the other trailer too. Decent face scans (& supposed new emotions too) and would be keen to see the 'improved impact engine'. Apparently the Frostbite engine is supposed to improve. We know that can do with an improvement!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on June 17, 2016, 03:02:49 pm
Hmmm ... saw this earlier ...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClHUjwEWEAAyMzX.jpg)

That looks pretty damn good!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on June 17, 2016, 03:04:41 pm
And then you see this ... as one of the limited edition kits:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClGCLCcWMAAZ8R_.jpg)\

... and it kinda makes NOT want to pre-order. Disgusting.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: sherlockh on June 18, 2016, 08:13:11 pm
Shocking looking kit, but I bet loads will use it.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on July 03, 2016, 06:23:08 pm
We will buy a copy again. Will also be my return to teh FIFA fields. Having played for weeks now and I am ready for a fresh start!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on July 04, 2016, 02:40:16 pm
Howdy Glad! Hope all is well mate.

Yeah - the new images of Twitter re: Juve ... looks pretty impressive. I guess that, together with licenses means it's another year of FIFA ...
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on July 13, 2016, 07:57:42 pm
OK ...

So this ...
Drill that header downwards! New Attacking Techniques in #FIFA17! 
.. and ...
Bury that ball in the bottom corner thanks to the NEW driven shot mechanic in #FIFA17!
... doesn't sound too bad.

But this ...
Put through balls on the money with the NEW Driven Through Ball mechanic in #FIFA17!

... sounds way too ominous ... !
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on July 13, 2016, 08:25:25 pm
Driven through balls hammered in constantly by full backs diagonally in towards Aubameyang. We're going to have fun with that!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on July 14, 2016, 09:12:17 am
Yeah ... back to the age-old issue where short/long passing is meaningless. Let's make something OP so the delinquents can abuse their parent's credit cards cause they're winning with this mentality.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on July 18, 2016, 08:25:08 pm
Quote
FIFA 17 features many firsts for the franchise, among them is the use of the Frostbite™ Engine to power the game. We talked with FIFA Technical Director Ed Kilham to find out what Frostbite brings to the FIFA franchise on Xbox One, PlayStation 4 and PC.

For those that don't know, what is Frostbite™?

Frostbite is the tech platform that powers many of EA’s games including Battlefield™, Need For Speed™ and FIFA 17.

When did the team decide to move to Frostbite for EA SPORTS FIFA?

The decision to move to Frostbite happened before I arrived on FIFA. The team has worked for more than two years with FIFA 17 and the Frostbite engine.

Why is it important that FIFA 17 uses the Frostbite engine?

The overarching goal is to leverage the abilities of many of our game teams to produce an engine that delivers world-class games. For FIFA, the move to Frostbite allows us to develop new features that were not supported by the previous engine including the new cinematic story mode in FIFA 17, The Journey.



What were some of the challenges moving from our previous game engine to Frostbite?

Software transitions are more difficult than Hardware transitions. Moving from EA SPORTS IGNITE to Frostbite required the team to learn the new technology platform, to adapt the platform to the specific needs of FIFA and to push the new platform to allow FIFA to do both the things it has done superbly in the past as well as innovate in new and exciting ways.

Where there any surprises during development? Anything that you guys could do now but couldn't in the past?

Empowering content creators with the tools within Frostbite has allowed for a new level of collaborative development between the creative and technical groups within FIFA. Looking at FIFA 17, we're pretty excited about the power of Frostbite and maybe a bit surprised at just how much it can unlock for the teams.

Frostbite is part of our new story mode, The Journey. Can you share how the mode uses the engine?

It takes FIFA players to places they have never been before, including new environments that showcase true-to-life action with lighting, rendering, and schematics. It also gives the team here the ability to bring to life characters that are full of depth and emotion.


what do you think of this change? I know that the ignite engine switch in FIFA14 did only bring pain. This could be a return to the FIFA12 & 13 gameplay
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on July 19, 2016, 11:11:51 am
I do think it's a great change - visually. Already, some of the face scans looks even more impressive.

Game play though ... not too sure how much that will be impacted. I understand this is more around visuals - ability to look at a locker room, walk around there, etc. - thus supporting the new mode.

Re: "The Journey" ... yeah ... erm ... don't care.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on July 19, 2016, 10:29:31 pm
looks better but I am hoping that the AI gets better too......
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on July 20, 2016, 01:01:36 am
They say all this "improved intelligence" and "better runs and attacking positioning" every single year. Fullbacks, Centre Backs and Goalkeepers will still be stupid in comparison, kids will have no clue how to defend themselves, they'll moan, EA will get scared of pack sales falling, a patch will appear and the game will have changed back to Fifa 15. Same thing happens literally every year.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on July 20, 2016, 04:15:12 am
On the dodgy defending position AI if you leave them to sort themselves out......

http://news.futhead.com/posts/fifa-17/34323-fifa-17-gameplay-analysis-player-positioning
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on July 20, 2016, 06:15:36 am
1000% agree TWS ... such a shame we need to bow down to this entitlement generation that don't want to learn how to play - they want it all gifted on a platter.

Such a shame.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on July 20, 2016, 04:46:21 pm
interesting article. And scary too if that will be the defensive AI.....5 ATB will be teh next best thing after sliced bread in FIFA17

Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on July 21, 2016, 06:51:58 am
Agree on that article. I do understand that he did not have too much reference on preceding play, but the defence looked atrocious most times.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on July 22, 2016, 07:33:36 am
3-5-2  ;D
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on August 03, 2016, 07:57:04 am
Beta invites going out today !!! get checking those emails
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on August 03, 2016, 08:44:14 am
I have never spent a penny extra than actually buying the game. That rules me out!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on August 10, 2016, 11:10:26 pm
Got nothing
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on August 18, 2016, 09:45:16 pm
some FUT related info on FIFA17

Quote
You’ll need to know how chemistry between players work. Players from other nations. We assume, though can’t confirm, it’ll mean that chemistry would be hampered by players not being able to communicate because of language barriers.
You’ll have to build teams by meeting certain conditions. For example: you may need to have a minimum of four different nationalities while also having a minimum team-rating of 60 etc.

They’re basically mini-games that reward you with new players for your FUT squad.

You’ll also be able to take these challenges on without being on your console – you can play it
via the smartphone app and then collect your rewards back on your console.

Quick-selling of non-needed players is being discouraged by giving every player a purpose within the challenges.

Weekend League: Biggest prizes and rewards for Weekend Leagues.

There will also be a monthly leaderboard.

To get into the Weekend Leagues you need to play throughout the week to try to qualify

Players will compete for in-game currency and cards

weekend leagues.......oh dear ..
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on August 18, 2016, 10:01:51 pm
The more I see about FUT 17, the more I fear it's going to be worse than ever before. Driven through balls. That sets alarm bells ringing straight away!

Also that match video with that strange freak and Reus looks like an even worse pace bs mess than we usually get served up.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on August 20, 2016, 02:56:08 pm
Played both PES and FIFA on the gamescom. PES was absolutely bad. The AI was makiing very bad decisions. For instance when you had the ball, you winger and back would be in 5 meters of each other. Leaving a big defense gap but also onreachable sides.

As for FIFA. Defensive AI is much better than all the 'analysis' vids on the internet are showing. Only did a head to head game but every player was where you expected him. Graphics are again great.

Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on August 30, 2016, 09:47:48 am
See that the first batch of ratings has been released - http://www.futhead.com/17/players/?bin_platform=xb

There was a YouTube video too, with some funny moments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk_K45T3qCc

... and you can see some other ratings.

Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on August 30, 2016, 10:34:24 pm
nice vID!

interesting stats
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on August 31, 2016, 07:55:19 am
Yeah ... with the new release (https://t.co/fSiUACzgEY) there are some interesting ones - specifically like Kroos/Busquets re: their pace (45/42 respectively).

Wonder if that means that pace in the midfield will be less important, otherwise why have an 88-rated Kroos there?
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on August 31, 2016, 08:49:42 pm
soooooo its the time of the year, i should stop by and say hello to my old friends...
how are you guys : ) been a while ...


well i am buying the game, lets see how it will turn out - dont have high hopes, it will be the same like every other year.
a really good game released at start, patched to a horrible version in a month...


am excited about the packs tough, gift packs i mean, this year did not have time to play a lot ... but still have like a few account that would qualify for packs...


also bf1 is on its way ... so a nice year ahead : )
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on August 31, 2016, 10:47:42 pm
Hey Otu!!! How are you doing mate! With all the stress in your country.

Looking forward to play myself too. Good to have you back in the FIFA saddle.

As for BF1, I did pre-order it and also Titanfall 2.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on August 31, 2016, 11:18:45 pm
well you know, **** happens ... we were lucky to dodge that coup attempt ...
bf1 is deffo i am getting, was not sure about titanfall 2, but looking into mw infinite warrior (with remastered version of mw1 - an all time favourite) ...
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on September 01, 2016, 12:51:44 am
I have played TF2 on teh Gamescom and the pre-Alpha beta in the console.....great great great great. Super fast gameplay like COd used to be
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 01, 2016, 01:57:43 am
Otu nice to see you and family are ok  ;D

Yea played the BF1 early access beta yesterday quite good did have the joy of killing that tool NepentheZ  with a artillery cannon too  ;D ;D


Titanfall don't really know as think im getting old for these fast games, on COD will be buying getting my COD 4 copy and instantly trading the new cod in.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on September 02, 2016, 09:52:35 pm
: ) the sole reason for me to get COD would be cod 4 mw ... same as you ...
the fast gameplay , unfortuntaly can not cope with it ... so no titnafall for me...
tried the demo for bf1, its going to be interesting , the guns and so , are a bit slow, now rapid as ACRs or so, looking forward.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on September 03, 2016, 01:07:50 am
BF1 will be loads of fun!

And I believe FIFA will too.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on September 05, 2016, 10:21:56 pm
LOL Ronaldo has a higher rating than Messi....
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on September 10, 2016, 05:00:19 pm
does anyone know when the web app for fifa17 will be live?
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 10, 2016, 08:13:14 pm
Naah ... no idea mate. Haven't seen any announcements as yet.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 14, 2016, 07:19:34 am
So ... demo is available now ...

Anyone played? Thoughts?
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 14, 2016, 08:03:41 am
Yea like it so far, don't like any of the set pieces though the cameras are horrible, and if you change you're stance on pens it makes you kick it straight away. 
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 14, 2016, 11:29:24 am
Played a handful of games vs the kid. Like it too. The whole penalty system is great, especially when playing 1 vs 1. You always had to hide the controller to make sure they cannot see. Now, even though the arrow is there, you can change at any time. Have had some funny moments in this so far!

BB - what I did notice is using the right stick first, changes the length/angle of the run up. Then you use the left stick to take a step left or right and run forward at the same time.

Overall thought, this Frostbite engine steps it up another notch visually. Seeing the sweat on their faces, Lingard's & Pep's faces ... looks impressive!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on September 14, 2016, 06:23:59 pm
will try tonight, currently hooked on Overwatch....

frostbite will give a lot of visual improvements. But I am hoping for more game play improvements too.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 15, 2016, 09:32:04 am
There are a few improvements that I could see.

The set ball changes are actually huge! Scoring from FK's is going to take quite a bit of work - my initial thoughts at least. Or maybe, it's the unwinding of actually how easy there are in '16.

The speed on the demo was quite slow. But, we know that won't be UT. What I did like is the fact that mistakes were actually being made - can't drive-pass to every single person. Felt realistic. Also, the kid was missing some clangers, so it was not a given you'd score everything.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on September 15, 2016, 06:55:50 pm
I'm not bothering with the demo. It'll take ages to download on my internet and will be nothing like the actual game and whatever the first few days patch does to it, probably turn it into the mess we have right now.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on September 15, 2016, 08:51:15 pm
the thing is that the demo is pretty good as every year. Game play is normal, close to a football SIM...and then comes the release  ::) . FUT will be hyper speed, no doubt.

Visual part is great though! Looks really really nice
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on September 15, 2016, 09:36:26 pm
H2H vs the AI and FUT online vs some weirdo teenager will be like chalk and cheese I'd guess. Especially after they start patching it back to this years game as usual! First few days and maybe weeks will be best. Before the exploits are learnt and standard crappy teams are put together.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 16, 2016, 11:32:11 am
Soon ...

(http://i.imgur.com/dBz1BPv.jpg)
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 16, 2016, 09:30:56 pm
Hope the DB hurries up
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on September 17, 2016, 03:55:55 am
Looking forward to it! Probably this Sundsy or Monday
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on September 19, 2016, 09:44:47 am
Played one match of the demo earlier without even downloading it. Played a friend via shareplay and won on penalties after a 1-1 draw. I managed a 90th minute equaliser.
Needs a lot of work from the demo to the full game, that's for sure.
It did bring about the most hysterical penaltiy shoot out ever witnessed. I scored one that had so little power, it barely reached the goal. Some of the misses were also comical. Skill game for all set pieces will be a big necessity before even playing a single match!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 19, 2016, 12:17:14 pm
LOL ... had the similar PK shootout with the kid :D.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 20, 2016, 04:37:59 am
DB is out lads

http://wefut.com/player-database
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 20, 2016, 04:53:00 am
Yeah, looks like it's final (way too much detail to 'not be'), but it's a pity some positions are not finalised as yet.

It was interesting going through it, and even the limited players on FUThead.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 20, 2016, 04:54:51 am
On another note, saw someone posted details of the catalog items. The important part ;D - 13 coin boosts gets you 82k across 130 games. All this is level 45 and lower.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 20, 2016, 06:08:02 am
gonna play against the lad him using a dummy account on his xbox, just start and let him quit should get those coins quickly to use for trading.

Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 21, 2016, 04:32:30 am
https://www.easports.com/fifa/ultimate-team/tips-and-tricks/how-chemistry-works-in-fut-17
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 21, 2016, 04:32:44 am
web app up
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 21, 2016, 04:48:01 am
Tws


(https://gyazo.com/964bc68ccf159aa598bb9c8973018cd0.png)
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 21, 2016, 06:39:49 am
Damn ... are you in?!?!

I'm getting the 'early web start' issue that many others are getting.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 21, 2016, 06:42:13 am
https://www.easports.com/fifa/ultimate-team/tips-and-tricks/how-chemistry-works-in-fut-17

Scanned through this and whilst it "is detail", some of it seems like you're reading a legal document - "... includes but is not limited to ..." :D.

Guarding this secret closer than J. Edgar Hoover's files ...
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on September 21, 2016, 06:49:50 am
Jaja is back?! Won't be a patch on fifa 13 version I wouldn't have thought.
I can't get on the web app. "Your names not down, you're not coming in!"
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 21, 2016, 06:53:04 am
I see FUTHEAD is updated now - over 12k in players. Seems like the Brazilians aren't all there though - Gabriel Barbosa is one the kid has been looking out for.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 21, 2016, 06:55:00 am
Damn ... are you in?!?!

I'm getting the 'early web start' issue that many others are getting.

No i'm getting this too on 10 accounts
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on September 21, 2016, 06:57:44 am
Time to start looking at crazy nations. Briefly looked on that other incomplete database and there look to to be some absolutely ridiculous ones, more obscure than this year!
Will have to come up with a couple of cheap starter teams and see what the web app brings if it ever works.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on September 21, 2016, 06:58:27 am
I know people that are on and Robben has been pulled by one.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on September 21, 2016, 07:37:53 am
well so much for loyalty

(http://i66.tinypic.com/2ai9lv.jpg)

need to wait until the disc is out....
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 21, 2016, 08:03:14 am
Early access (with EA Access) is tomorrow (well 22nd :)).

The one tweet seems to explain that they are limiting the release - not necessarily a bad thing given in the past connection was horrible to start with!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 21, 2016, 08:03:38 am
Damn ... are you in?!?!

I'm getting the 'early web start' issue that many others are getting.

No i'm getting this too on 10 accounts

Ah ok ... unlucky for us, hey!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on September 21, 2016, 03:49:27 pm
apparetnly they are working on the invitaition problem .
we might maybe login today tomorrow, i got the same **** as well
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: beuk on September 21, 2016, 07:59:24 pm
Hello fellow addicts, strange isn't it, heard the database and webapp was live and before I knew it I was trading and searching players like I didn't quit almost a year ago..

I hope everyone is allright?

No problem login in at my end and as valued customer  ::)got 4 packs of rubish, 10k atm
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on September 21, 2016, 09:02:04 pm
Welcome back! I managed to get on half an hour ago, opened my four all player packs and loyalty pack. Best I've got is Moya and Darmian. Transfer market is locked for me so can't do anything else to the 500 coins the daily gift gave me.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: beuk on September 21, 2016, 09:15:03 pm
Well EA is doing a fine job for me this year, everything is working like it's supposed to, I'm sure that it will end once I decide to buy the game ;D

Sold 2 players  and discard all others.
 
2 bronce 5 stars skillers, that bronze striker from dortmund and a perfect link bronze rw-st feyenoord-duo, really tempting  :P

Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 22, 2016, 02:10:45 am
Got into my accounts haven't opened the packs yet as was waiting for TOTW  :D

Doesn't look like there will be one ??

Haven't got transfers open on any of the accounts  :-\

Do have 9 packs to open on my account best ever
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on September 22, 2016, 02:27:24 am
can only access one account. Second keeps blocked. nothing special in packs (what is new?)

Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 22, 2016, 04:17:10 am
Early access up and running
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: sherlockh on September 22, 2016, 05:47:54 am
Managed to log in to the companion app and given I am on holiday and will miss early access it's the best I'm going to get.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on September 22, 2016, 06:39:31 am
Got my first two teams planned and 70% built with at least another few thousand in sales or discards if i want to. With a week of gifts I should comfortably sort them out, by the end of the weekend at the latest.
Nations include Angola, Mozambique, New Caledonia, Burkina Faso, Romania and Syria amongst others! AlSoma makes my starter teams for the second year running. 
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 22, 2016, 08:07:43 am
(https://gyazo.com/5ae2e31ae8ecbbe24b525f15163c14e6.png)
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on September 22, 2016, 05:52:49 pm
finally got in as well...


in past years out of 40 accounts i used almost get sth from each of them ...
this year only 9 got packs, (during the year i have only played with 15 or so accounts anyway) ...


very bad packs, apart from one account getting a totw silver keeper goes for 5 k and kagawa ...


9 packs on 1 single acct is crazy tough : ) and congratz for the benz, easy coins in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on September 22, 2016, 05:53:31 pm
the squad challenges on companion app is quite fun tough, highly recommend it ...
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on September 22, 2016, 07:33:11 pm
one more note, EA finally explained a bit more about chem ...
they have posted a table with chem styles affecting how much of each attribute ...


and related to this, futwiz updated their site with this chem boost tool, you can apply any chem (virtually) on any card
and see the impacts. quite handy, and honestly can simply make me get rid of IFs ...
having said this, have seen the first totw and updates look massive, milik became 83 while nif is 79, guess EA wants to push for sales : )
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 22, 2016, 08:43:47 pm
Nice one BB.

Got home from a trip out to Hamilton (about 2.5 hrs drive away). Kid was roaring to go so opened whatever packs we got - not much in there. He then loaded some FP before I was even back, but 'restrained' himself to open 1 pack only.

About 2 thirds into the points, this appeared:
(http://i.imgur.com/jWzzEtk.jpg)

For a moment I was actually thinking it was a loanee or something - expecting to be bordered in blue. Nope the real deal ... !!! Quite stunned I must admit.

Onto playing ... to maximise time, we used the 15x1000 coin boost and played offline seasons (Ultimate League version). Well, well ... what fun! Honestly, we were both stunned by some of the game play by the AI. Massively improved and highly unpredictable! Most games were against World Class and there was definitely some real quality play at times, for instance - this one ripped us apart:

Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on September 22, 2016, 08:58:19 pm
wow kiwi & son: that is hitting the jackpot! Nice one and well deserved after playing so many games and being loyal to the game.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 22, 2016, 09:12:24 pm
Thanks mate - appreciate that.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 22, 2016, 09:14:43 pm
@OT ... thanks for the headsup on FUTWIZ - will check that out.

And yep - it's good they've finally come out with some info on that too!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 22, 2016, 09:20:34 pm
Ah ... forgot to mention the squad building challenges ... Damn! Quite interesting stuff there!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on September 22, 2016, 10:54:15 pm
wow man, messi on early access, very good, congratz ...


i myself will buy FP and then open packs on the first day .
did not decide how much tough.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: sherlockh on September 23, 2016, 01:04:01 am
Wow kiwi great pull  :D
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on September 23, 2016, 02:45:08 am
Messi, good grief! What's the plan? Use him for early access and sell when the full game is out and people have the coins to buy him for full worth? Basically you are set up for 17!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on September 23, 2016, 02:50:06 am
so created two bronze teams, ready to go for the first week. Will swap to Gold later.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on September 23, 2016, 02:54:08 am
Been doing quite a few of the squad building challenges. Done about half a dozen without having to buy a single player, but will have to make purchases to do anymore.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on September 23, 2016, 03:20:30 am
where are those challenges?
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on September 23, 2016, 03:34:51 am
Not on the web app. You have to get the Companion App from your phone store. Good way to use the awful bronzes that no one would ever buy or you just wouldn't use.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on September 23, 2016, 04:12:21 am
Am also killing time with those challenges completed one which gives premium silver players pack

Got a totw rm silver : ) egyptian dude whom i hv never heard of

But the pack luck is coming back : )
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 23, 2016, 05:02:31 am
Thanks again Guys.

Messi, good grief! What's the plan? Use him for early access and sell when the full game is out and people have the coins to buy him for full worth? Basically you are set up for 17!
Ah mate ... initially - no idea! :D.

Obviously there are morons who have him listed at the moment for 2.4M+ ... at this early stage. I guess they simply want to not let him go peanuts. So, for us it means we're playing with him and will do so for a while.

Am also killing time with those challenges completed one which gives premium silver players pack
Got a totw rm silver : ) egyptian dude whom i hv never heard of
But the pack luck is coming back : )
Nice one mate!

Again, that whole challenges addition is a really good one. I certainly hope EA don't let this die out & keep refreshing them with good ones. I can see the expiry date on some (not the league ones), so it seems like they will be updated.

Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 23, 2016, 05:05:40 am
Starter team sorted  ;D

All bought for min


(https://gyazo.com/907b9f03454114d26648620f48204597.png)
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 23, 2016, 05:08:56 am
Have 6 or 7 Silver teams in progress at the mo

Super Lig and Dutch both 1 player short, picked quite a few top silvers for dirt cheap one being Sau for 900c
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 23, 2016, 05:18:41 am
Nice ones mate.

... Sau for 900c
Wow!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 23, 2016, 06:42:44 am
Dutch lads will be happy  ;D

First silver team finished

(https://gyazo.com/6d9a2859c96789e998606130ff2c1259.png)
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 23, 2016, 06:56:23 am
TWS sorry to tell you but they have done away with online cups  :-\
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on September 23, 2016, 07:22:05 am
Dutch lads will be happy  ;D

First silver team finished

(https://gyazo.com/6d9a2859c96789e998606130ff2c1259.png)
Not really: no Feyenoord = no party!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 23, 2016, 07:33:51 am
To good to be silver  :D
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 23, 2016, 07:35:01 am
TWS sorry to tell you but they have done away with online cups  :-\

I reckon it's to do with the Champions Cup thing. You gotta win 4 games in there to qualify.

But, for TWS ... yep, seems like you need to re-think your challenge unfortunately.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on September 23, 2016, 09:03:44 am
Nooooooooooooo!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on September 23, 2016, 09:14:47 am
What is there game mode wise? Is it apparent how you qualify for this FUT champions thing? Is there not some sort of featured cup with entry requirements?
So online wise, you can play draft, divisions and what else at present?
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 23, 2016, 09:23:49 am
It's called the Champions Cup. You get to qualify for the weekend story, by winning 4 games - so kinda like a Cup, in the initial sense. The other way to qualify for this, would be "high level in Seasons" ... as BB said the other day. No real confirmation of that though.

I guess the tough ask is what happens after you win the cup, Monday through Friday. On the weekend is the "Cup" component closed and you focus on your "40 games for the weekend"?

Surely they're going to have to implement something, as not everybody will want to sweat it out every single weekend.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 23, 2016, 10:04:58 am
It's called the Champions Cup. You get to qualify for the weekend story, by winning 4 games - so kinda like a Cup, in the initial sense. The other way to qualify for this, would be "high level in Seasons" ... as BB said the other day. No real confirmation of that though.

I guess the tough ask is what happens after you win the cup, Monday through Friday. On the weekend is the "Cup" component closed and you focus on your "40 games for the weekend"?

Surely they're going to have to implement something, as not everybody will want to sweat it out every single weekend.

Surely seasons will be a doddle at weekends with the stronger players in FUT Champions
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 23, 2016, 11:32:46 am
Surely seasons will be a doddle at weekends with the stronger players in FUT Champions

Or, down here ... it will be a case of watching tumble weeds ... :D
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on September 23, 2016, 04:28:50 pm
interesting news ...


and for the dutch silver team, the ST Enes, he will surely get an upgrade during JAN. mark my words : )
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on September 23, 2016, 04:32:00 pm
Starter team sorted  ;D

All bought for min


(https://gyazo.com/907b9f03454114d26648620f48204597.png)

looking nice, might steal that team :P idea
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on September 23, 2016, 04:33:50 pm
TWS sorry to tell you but they have done away with online cups  :-\

I reckon it's to do with the Champions Cup thing. You gotta win 4 games in there to qualify.

But, for TWS ... yep, seems like you need to re-think your challenge unfortunately.

4 consecutive wins as if it was the gold cup or ?
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on September 23, 2016, 06:33:56 pm
Still trying to think what to do on 17. Can see myself getting bored of it just like on Fifa 13 when I decided to try and collect all the special bronze cards around the Easter time if I don't.

These squad building challenges are good, but it's so obvious what's going to end up happening. The ones that are for the special Jonas and Giovinco cards where you have to collect the club XI. Without looking, I guess you need 100 chemistry and that means the smaller clubs in the league that have one silver goalkeeper or only a small squad, price fix time. Will cost more to get the cards then they are worth.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on September 23, 2016, 08:03:01 pm
Still trying to think what to do on 17. Can see myself getting bored of it just like on Fifa 13 when I decided to try and collect all the special bronze cards around the Easter time if I don't.

These squad building challenges are good, but it's so obvious what's going to end up happening. The ones that are for the special Jonas and Giovinco cards where you have to collect the club XI. Without looking, I guess you need 100 chemistry and that means the smaller clubs in the league that have one silver goalkeeper or only a small squad, price fix time. Will cost more to get the cards then they are worth.

i think i will aim, this champions wekeend, 10 wins tops my target, still a decent return - obviously if i can find the time ...
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 23, 2016, 08:51:16 pm
The Squad Building Challenges are honestly quite boring - nothing game play related. So, it's not really a 'challenge' in the sense of unique squad building and actually using them.

I spent some time today checking on this - put some quick screenshots together - better to click here as it's a bit wide http://i.imgur.com/GsjKJ0q.png

For the heck, we finished the Rio Ave one - the 2 players were close to discard but overall, the extra cards we bought, effectively lost 1.2k on that, as well as the 'opportunity cost' of discarding the ones that weren't untradeable.

Overall, would be great to finish something like this up, but the rewards are really just coins and packs. Nothing that will really hold your interest too long.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on September 23, 2016, 11:04:22 pm
well i got an IF from one of the prem packs from the challenges... and today a pato (io nif japanese bronzes i would never use ranging from 50 to 59) [size=78%]i guess its not sth that you would aim in the beginning of the game but during time where you accumulate a lotta cards ...[/size]


hybrid ones are quite difficult tough (wihtout enough players)...
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 24, 2016, 02:49:39 am
Still trying to think what to do on 17. Can see myself getting bored of it just like on Fifa 13 when I decided to try and collect all the special bronze cards around the Easter time if I don't.

These squad building challenges are good, but it's so obvious what's going to end up happening. The ones that are for the special Jonas and Giovinco cards where you have to collect the club XI. Without looking, I guess you need 100 chemistry and that means the smaller clubs in the league that have one silver goalkeeper or only a small squad, price fix time. Will cost more to get the cards then they are worth.

The smaller clubs you only need 4-5 players, i don't remember what club but one has no keeper so you only need 5 from the club
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 24, 2016, 06:24:50 am
4 consecutive wins as if it was the gold cup or ?
This gives more info - https://www.easports.com/fifa/ultimate-team/compete/fut-champions
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 24, 2016, 06:25:53 am
The smaller clubs you only need 4-5 players, i don't remember what club but one has no keeper so you only need 5 from the club
Correct ... but then there is still the necessity to fill up the squad with the rest being from Liga NOS (in that specific challenge).
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 24, 2016, 06:30:23 am
On another topic, FUTBIN has changed!! Love it!

I'm not talking about the visual changes - they have included the ability to restrict their search with in-game stats. Given things are new again, checking positions and then filtering with some additional options, it's handy to see immediately what the lowest BIN is.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on September 24, 2016, 07:00:32 pm
are there any bronze cups Kiwi?
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 24, 2016, 08:17:49 pm
are there any bronze cups Kiwi?

Technically there are no online cups. This comment ... "Dynamic squad entry requirements and unique rewards keep the Daily Knockouts fresh" ... may seem like there will be "interesting challenges". Although, based on past experience, some of their cups have been pretty boring - or "not challenging".
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on September 24, 2016, 11:10:17 pm
Had some pack luck for once. Got a silver gift pack with one of the Portuguese teams LB's. None on the market and the only one at the club. Decent price for that meant I had enough to complete the final kick off squad builder. Packed some sellable players from that pack and the one from completing the group of squads, and all of a sudden I've gone from under 1k to 12k! More than enough to start the hybrid squads section.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on September 25, 2016, 12:15:38 am
nice TWS, I am making some coin with bronze players but as it stands now these wil drop in value if there is no own cup anymore. I will be selling off my two bronze teams too and create Golds from the start

Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on September 25, 2016, 03:25:27 am
so I am off selling the brons teams, should bring me some coins to get two Gold teams sorted out. Championship Golds look nice too...
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on September 25, 2016, 06:40:28 pm
I did the complete the kick off sbc and packed a kante : )guess around 10 k easily when game starts
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 25, 2016, 10:58:58 pm
I would hold off till Tuesday or monday night 12am us time for their release to sell on PS
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on September 27, 2016, 10:45:48 pm
@ early access brothers: are you using the same formations as last year, do you feel that there is a lot of difference? Or do they feel the same?
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 28, 2016, 06:28:06 am
@ early access brothers: are you using the same formations as last year, do you feel that there is a lot of difference? Or do they feel the same?

Don't really know Glad don't like 4-2-3-1 at all this year haven't tried any 3 ATB yet, 4-3-2-1 is nice best yet for me anyway
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 28, 2016, 10:39:09 am
Stuck with 433(5) so far Glad & it's pretty great - again!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on September 30, 2016, 01:17:17 am
Played six games so far. Got to the semi final of draft, am in the semi final of the fut champions qualifier and lost the one season game I played. Have enjoyed it. First game was ridiculous, won 4-3 with 39 efforts at goal in the match, 22 for me, 17 for the opponent!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 30, 2016, 01:51:00 am
Got IF Hernandez and Chiellini in BTB packs last night  ;D
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on September 30, 2016, 02:53:32 am
Hernandez seems decent. Used my untradable one and scored a couple of nice goals with him in the two games he has played.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on September 30, 2016, 03:03:25 am
I will be online Friday evening.Created this while I am on a business trip. IF Icardi I already have

(http://i67.tinypic.com/2zyd15j.jpg)
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on September 30, 2016, 03:22:42 am
Hernandez seems decent. Used my untradable one and scored a couple of nice goals with him in the two games he has played.


Sold him for 95k last night, knew he would drop like a stone with all the packs being opened, was as low as 62k today
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on September 30, 2016, 08:02:01 am
Nice 'packing' there BB!

@Glad - would be interesting to hear how 3atb goes.

@TWS ... fun! :D The one game where we scored 8, had 16 attempts at HT. Can be quite manic ... or 'sustained pressure' can be quite intense.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on October 02, 2016, 02:08:30 pm
My pack luck continues just packed OTW Sanches & Giuliano  :o

And Sturridge and Koscielny
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on October 02, 2016, 03:12:38 pm
Wow mate - that is impressive!

Not quite as amazing as that, but yesterday we got Mahrez (45k) and OTW Krychowiak (38k) from SBC packs. Bought some FP and then pulled another Mahrez ;D.

Funniest is we sold them both off, then bought him today for a team :D.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on October 02, 2016, 05:28:42 pm
One thing that I keep forgetting ... so happy that custom tactics now stick ... finally. 5 years later ... ::)
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on October 03, 2016, 04:35:43 pm
also into some packing - someone paid 37k for wayne - da flop donkey - rooney ...


players that would be a few coins end of this month are actually yielding quite ok, sokratis bellarabi rodriguez (swiss) got me another 30k in between them. some dude paid 5k for a UNAM kit.


mass pack opening is sth i do every year once or twice, good thing is all those shitty players that i get from them are more meaningful with the SBC.


i must say the developments in fut menus, the game itself, draft, or the sbc this year are quite good additions after all those long and dull years ... it now carries your PRO from 16 (par the achievements and developments), or made me start from div 8 in seasons looking into my past perf : )


and in div 8, i got 3 2 2 - which normally i would thrash with like 5 wins, but hey new game new dynamics.


only thing that bothers me, the crosses and corners that fly so high up in the air, could not get used to it, tfore adjusted my camera settings, also the game is a bit dark to me when its a night game ... will be all good with time i guess.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on October 03, 2016, 09:32:26 pm
Have been buying non rare golds mass bidding on 300c one's and putting them into that gold upgrade SBC you get 2 rare players pack for trading in 11 non rare  only 11 days left of it. it is repeatable well worth it as for 3300 coins you get 2 rares if you opened a pack for 7500 how many rare players would you get ??

Got Alderweireld and Nainggolan as my best ones yet, they are untradeable though but hey ho
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on October 04, 2016, 02:34:44 am
Squad building challenges have been decent. Some of them are obvious coins sinks to get coins out the game, but some of them, if you are sensible and a bit patient and build cheaply, are well worth it. Also a lot to.be said about keeping the players that go for 400 coins as in a week they could be going for 6.5k for future ones.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on October 05, 2016, 09:13:08 pm
Bought a OTW Giuliano for 31k the other day - want to see if he gets an IF this week. Apparently he scored 1 assisted 2 (technically one is from him being fouled and gaining a penalty) ... hype means he's now at 52k ;D.

Although FUTHEAD have not predicted him, I'm thinking EA will give him one purely to 'test' the waters re: this upgrading of card. Nothing like releasing them and one getting straight in. The other card though, is Embolo - his card has risen ridiculously:
(http://i.imgur.com/iFFjewb.jpg)

Not sure if we'll get 2 in the same week ... ::)
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on October 06, 2016, 01:38:39 am
Bought a OTW Giuliano for 31k the other day - want to see if he gets an IF this week. Apparently he scored 1 assisted 2 (technically one is from him being fouled and gaining a penalty) ... hype means he's now at 52k ;D.

Although FUTHEAD have not predicted him, I'm thinking EA will give him one purely to 'test' the waters re: this upgrading of card.
Not sure if we'll get 2 in the same week ... ::)

Got 3 Kiwi  !!! Giuliano lowest is 105k
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on October 06, 2016, 05:43:20 am
Nice one mate ... fickle - only word for this market. If hadn't got it, he would've been back to 25k.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on October 06, 2016, 05:46:01 am
LOL ... people realising now that the TOTW version is the OTW & he's falling hard! Rage selling under under 50k

Edit ... and given that his NIF has been out of packs for a bit, selling off the NIF for 4.9k (bought for 800 coins).
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on October 06, 2016, 05:48:16 am
... and Embolo has suffered the same fate! Lowest BIN (not fresh) is 86k - been listed for almost 40 min.

Just seen that Embolo peaked at 190k-ish last night (both consoles) ... some people are going to be mad! ;D
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on October 06, 2016, 08:34:44 am
 yea but come monday when they are replaced in packs with the standard Card they will rise again right  ??

I only ask as i just packed Embolo  ;D
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on October 06, 2016, 10:21:26 am
Technically, yes, they should start the rise again.

However, with Embolo, the IF will be a ST version whilst the OTW stays RM. That RM may dip further until the IF. The only hassle is that if he gets another IF - again as ST - that OTW card is not going to be worth much as we know people don't want him on the wing.

What I would like to know is what happens at TOTS time. Does this OTW keep getting upp'ed all the way to TOTS? If Giuliano gets another 1 or 2 TOTS, then surely he'll be in the Russian TOTS and that way I'll keep him forever.

Regardless of all this ... the cards look so damn good! ;D
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on October 06, 2016, 11:04:01 am
I just can't wait until Sanches gets an IF
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on October 06, 2016, 06:21:18 pm
just packed a OTW batsuhayi or wahtever his name is ... i tend to keep him but seems conte is not fielding that guy ...
i will see where it goes, if he scores a few he easily will be like 84 85 and will cost a lot.


btw with the new chem explanations, actually am not much after IF s ... guess that is the reason why IF s are coming with +3 4 increases
to diferentiate with the NIF
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on October 07, 2016, 07:10:53 am
Nice just been using those non rares from smaller leagues to do that gold upgrade SBC for the untradeable 2 player rare pack  got Mkhitaryan in a pack and in the next one i get Bonucci would have been buying both at sometime anyway  :D
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on October 07, 2016, 05:52:23 pm
guys do you know what happened to "match day live" screen in the fifa - has it gone in fifa 17?
where it was showing teh player forms for kick off menu, green red up/down triangles?


has anybody noticed?
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on October 07, 2016, 07:12:07 pm
@ Otu: no idea....

Played some regular games too. I am in a competition for older folks  ;D when this happened at the 90th minute:

https://youtu.be/nC0OaSYCrhw (https://youtu.be/nC0OaSYCrhw)

pretty messed up...
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on October 28, 2016, 09:27:19 pm
Haven't posted much at all recently but the state of this game at the moment is an absolute joke.
You're very lucky if you finish a match in seasons or fut draft. Go 1-0 up and they just do the quit glitch so that the game doesn't count for them, they go 1-0 up and they do the quit glitch to get the win. Basically ever single person is winning draft because it's impossible to get knocked out of it using the glitch. People playing honestly also can't lose as they win 1-0 or go behind and then the match doesn't count for them anyway and they stay in that round.
Every idiot in the world just glitches their way up the division to FUT Champions qualification. Market is going to get more messed up by the day with all the glitched draft wins and prizes. Last night there were over 4 million items up for sale!
Supposedly this glitch only works on draft and seasons (wouldn't surprise me if people did it in single matches either) so fut champions is safe? Think again. There appears to be something in that as well that isn't out in the open. Happened to me last night in the daily tournament. The match kicked off. About a second later I was booted straight off the server getting a loss. Someone I know went 2-0 up late on in the final late in the match. Was straight away booted straight off the server and got a loss. If this catches on then all hell will break loose this weekend.
This has been going on for three days since some idiot youtuber did a video showing it. He took it down half an hour later but the damage was done and everyone it seems is doing it.

The game was getting bad enough as it was. Almost every opponent just plays park the bus or ultra defensive from the kick off, has Musa or Remy or other quick BPL forwards. They attempt to play no football whatsoever and just punt to ball forward or blind pass it perfectly 180 degrees. The messed up defensive intelligence will leave a massive hole in your defensive line at some point and they get some crappy goal. Park the bus sits their defence on their penalty spot which should mean you have lots of space to play around their box and shot at will? Yes, but the ridiculous auto block and tackling means getting the shot off is the difficult part. The fact that I'm not very good also doesn't help. The vast majority of games end with me having 3-5 times more shots on goal then the opponent, have more possession, but the combination of goalkeeper and AI blocking mean I lose 2-1 or 1-0 despite playing all the football.
Fair enough, I need to improve, but with everyone seemingly favouring this tactic, the games often are mind bendingly tedious 0-0 or one goal matches. People buy a football game to play no football at all!
On the rare occasion someone wants to play, it is a decent game, but that is rarer than ever before this year.
No gold cup also means either a tedious grind more often than not in Division 4 at the moment, or someone just sitting there and praying for a counter goal in the daily tournament.

The people that play this game are slowly and painfully killing it.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on October 31, 2016, 07:12:36 am
Have heard about the glitch on PS - didn't think it was THAT bad!!!

The whole PTB / Counter-attack setting is ludicrous, & as you say, throw in the AI auto tackling, keepers insane at times & the damn defenders making insanely-timed slides ... can be a very boring, tedious, frustrating time.

One game the kid yesterday - his opponent had 4 shots on target (from 5 in total) & 4 goals. Kid was down 0-3 and 1-4, but managed to equalise with 2 very late goals - thankfully he had possession! Managed a winner in ET with something like 21 shots on target from 25. Just idiotic that these guys think that this is fun.

If they could remove or tone down auto-tackling for all things Champions Cup, then it might start leveling out the playing field. Obviously for PS that glitch has to be patched.

It's a shame as apart from these few aspects, the game looks great and is probably the best since FIFA 12.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on October 31, 2016, 08:27:18 pm
It was practically impossible to finish a game the night the video was released! People were winning draft in 15 minutes with four 1-0 wins because the opponent would just quit if they conceded. Obviously this worked the other way as well and people would score straight away and quit through to the next round!
Not come across it for days now. EA sent loads of warning messages apparently, so on opening FUT a big red exclamation mark and message popped up.
I think the server problems were that loads of people were getting disconnected when winning so it went down at some point.
The all out defence and pray for Remy or Musa to get a counter is unfortunately rife. If you get someone that wants to play, it is a very good game, but it is rare.
I've been messing with completely different custom tactics the past few days. My usual one is just not working for me since the patch.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on October 31, 2016, 08:51:57 pm
That's atrocious. Not sure what I'd be doing if that was the case.

Hope they get it resolved ASAP mate.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on October 31, 2016, 11:14:03 pm
I still play now and then. Haven't come across that(lucky me!). The games that I play are more or less enjoyable. At least most of the time. I don't play high in seasons nor FWCC so that helps.

I am playing 4321 lately, with custom tactics. Kind of enjoy it. But BF1 and TF2 is taking most of my time.

Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on November 01, 2016, 01:25:01 am
The amount of stuff being farmed on draft was getting out of hand. There was over 4m items up for sale for a couple of days. Thursday night I think it was, the market was absolutely flooded. I spent about 50k picking up rare players between 80-84 for the absolute minimum on open bid. Next BPL squad builder will be very easy for me! It was literally page after page of players not selling at all with no bids on them for 700 coins!
This seems to have corrected itself now though. The new hybrid squad builders have taken loads of players off the market and the warning messages sent out have put most people off doing it.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on November 01, 2016, 01:28:35 am
I didn't bother but from what I heard, if you entered draft honestly, you would win it by either falling behind and the opponent would glitch it and therefore you didn't get knocked out, or by taking the lead, meaning the opponent would glitch it, get another free pass for that round and you'd go forward to the next round with a 1-0 win. Everyone was winning draft for a couple of days.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on November 02, 2016, 12:21:46 am
talking about the draft, i realized the other day, if yo go for offline draft it asks you the diff level.
so in theory, if the packs come up on offline is similar to online, it would make sense to play offline draft once in a while.
dont know if the packs or awards change with the diff level tough.


i have like free draft tokens since i have the online game so will be using them offline.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on November 02, 2016, 01:14:53 am
The offline prizes are much worse than online. I entered the off line draft by mistake a few weeks ago! Probably not worth it unless you get very lucky.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on November 02, 2016, 01:25:47 am
depends on level, the higher the level the higher the reward

see: https://www.upfifacoins.com/news/709--fifa-17-fut-draft-online--single-player-rewards--draft-squad-builder-tips

Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on November 07, 2016, 07:33:14 pm
wow.....this weekend opponent did quit after 1-0 up, twice in a row....

just for seasons....

game is dead for me if this happens more often.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on November 07, 2016, 08:13:48 pm
Apparently more warnings have been sent out. The first lot of warnings stopped a lot of them doing it. It's not happened in one of my games for over a week now. Hopefully this fresh wave will stop more doing it.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on November 09, 2016, 05:41:56 am
Yeah - they do need to get rid of that once & for all.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Nophut on November 29, 2016, 01:25:29 am
Hey guys - long time to speak..
Just passing by.. ;D

Been playing a fair bit of 17, but keep asking myself why?

For me this is the worst game yet - for opponents at least.

I would say 9/10 players I face are park-the-bus-counter-attackers with either Musa, Walcott, Wardy or Gray up top - or a combination of.

Not an enjoyable game at all.  Cannot get close to scoring half the time.
Still playing, just for the 10% of decent opponents I occasionally face, then it is a really decent game.

It is very sad.  EA produce a great game, and people ruin it in my opinion.

I even tried playing them at their own game... but not sure exactly what/how they do it...lol

Tried everything... formations, custom tactics, park the bus, attack, high pressure, pressing...

Any tips on how counter this awful awful style of play, gratefully received!

Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: guest15 on November 29, 2016, 09:48:14 pm
hey man, good to hear from you ...


kiwi and tws might be much of a help, as they are doing pretty ok ...


for me i am in div 3, what i play is 433 with 2 cdm and 1 cm (so a bit of a 4231 if you ask me). i pull back LW and RW towards to center and a bit back to mf. and use a custom tactic. i play on attack from the very beginning, otherwise i concede.


custom tactic is


80
30
organized


39
44
49
free


60 or 65
66
45
cover


so counter attacking with a narrow and double man defending... when i get the ball, i spam L1 for teammates to join to counter attack.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on November 30, 2016, 01:26:32 am
hey Hoppy!

Yeah TWS and KIWI are teh die-hards here. I am playing now and then (more then  :P ) in 4321 with some attacking play. Think the game is totally broke but it keeps pulling you in. I am in division 7 or 8. But I am facing crazy high rated teams there. Oh well. Nothing new of course.

Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Nophut on November 30, 2016, 03:59:54 am
hey man, good to hear from you ...


kiwi and tws might be much of a help, as they are doing pretty ok ...


for me i am in div 3, what i play is 433 with 2 cdm and 1 cm (so a bit of a 4231 if you ask me). i pull back LW and RW towards to center and a bit back to mf. and use a custom tactic. i play on attack from the very beginning, otherwise i concede.


so counter attacking with a narrow and double man defending... when i get the ball, i spam L1 for teammates to join to counter attack.

Thanks for the tips... will try them out.
I am also playing 4321, on attack

Although the defending isn't the worst part (although the counters are relentless) - it is scoring goals I really struggle with.
I can keep them at bay for long periods, by tackling from behind using mids, rather than from the front using defs.

But scoring is almost impossible in many games.  I can retain possession in the middle third, but ...
a) My players are immediately shut down in midfield as if their mids are on some kind of 'auto defend' mission
b) and even if I do manage to retain possession in midfield, with very quick passing, I cannot get near their goal, due to the ten men defending it - and again shutting my players down as if they are flies to a lamp...

How do they play this way?? How are their players set up to defend so swiftly, accurately and relentlessly?
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on November 30, 2016, 05:11:37 am
Yeah Nop ... the AI auto-defend can be an absolute killer.

When they're doing high pressure, that needs to be handled with quick passing - which I'm sure you're generally doing anyway based on your comments. As you go more forward, them rushing out becomes a weakness - doing 1-2's is handy. Problem still exists is that 1-2's are not always as accurate as normal passes.

When it's a PTB/Counter setup, maintaining that possession (effectively frustrating them) is key. They're bound to eventually control a defender manually thereby opening the gap for (another) 1-2.

I pretty much watch all the kid's games in the Weekend League. The moment he comes up against an opponent who defends manually (even one that is great going forward), he wins more than 95% of the games - easily. But, when the person is defending using the AI, it's a little more painful/boring.

Generally, he scores first and then the game changes as they need to push out and once again, this creates space.

Overall, against PTB/Counter, it can be a real boring game - unfortunately.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Nophut on December 01, 2016, 03:07:44 am
Hi Kiwi

But how do they invoke this 'auto defending'?  What is it... where does it come from...?

Why don't I have it!!?   ;D

They just run past my guys like they're not even there...
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on December 01, 2016, 06:11:40 am
Hey Nop.

Sorry, bit of a crappy pic showing the Xbox controls (and thus linked in rather) ... http://fifauteam.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/A1159-5x.jpg

Pretty much ...
• "Contain" - worst of the lot (IMO) as people who cannot defend, simply hold this all the time waiting for the AI to tackle when close enough to goal.
• "Teammate Contain" - I guess this one should be used as you can use it to get a defender into position, before taking control. Unfortunately, when used in conjunction with the above, it becomes a great "auto defending" tool.
• "Jockey" - I reckon you need to master this one to be real effective in defending. Over-committing a defender a few times - can be brutal. If you play someone who does this effectively, with "Teammate Contain", it's going to be harder to break them down.

Also, defensive pattern - as you say, grab a CDM/CM and run back, before (once again) committing a CB & being out of position quickly. As said, firstly use "Teammate Contain", then take control and use "Jockey" to get them into position.

After that ... it's about reading your opponent! Always harder at the start, but I do reckon a lot of people are similar, and have some "tells" in their attack, e.g. run, run, fake shot, cut in, fake shot, run down the line again. After you've tackled them a few times, the double bluff comes out - again, timing around reading that and they get frustrated.

Most times when I'm watching the kid on the weekend, I will mention "don't be predictable" 15/20 times. A third party watching the game can see the opponent's patterns more easily. If I had to guess, I'd say at least 75% of his opponents, possibly even more, have the exact same tendencies when attacking.

Maybe I play this game too much ... :D.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Nophut on December 01, 2016, 09:22:13 pm

Maybe I play this game too much ... :D.

Mate - we all do!

I use all those defensive features on and off...

I get the ball into midfield and bosh, the ball is gone, as their guy just swoops in and takes it... Just always puzzles me how they so accurately and consistently rob me off the ball.

I guess the people I play are better at using these features than I am! #younger

Ironically been going going okay last couple of sessions, since I came on here whinging!

Got relegated all the way back to D9.. so I guess that helps...playing people just as rubbish as I am!! lol

Thanks for the tips mate... as always
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on December 02, 2016, 12:40:10 am
What Kiwi says is good stuff. Definitely the bit about must opponents doing exactly the same things. Unfortunetly a lot of these thing are the things that are very difficult to stop! I'd say only now after 2 months of a lot of frustration and grinding against park the bus, auto AI defence, and high speed counters, very often in conjunction with each other, do i feel i'm now in a position to compete and am now regularly  feeling much more in control of games.
Been using 4231 for a few weeks, exclusively for the past week, and I feel that it is the perfect formation for how the game is currently. Solid in defence to stop the counters, and going forward, you have players everwhere for a pass, wide, middle, back, forward. I am also using both my fullbacks on always overlap and starting matches on attacking mentality.  Finding that you can open teams up for fun. Even if they are parking the bus, the 3 CAMS and 2 CDM's plus the full backs mean if i stay patient then i can carve them open easily.
If they are a highly skilled opponent, which is quite rare (normally they just rely on pace on the counter), then putting the full backs to be more defensive is a must. I think i only did this five or six times in the weekend league in 36 games, and once in about 15 since then. Because the vast majority play 4321 or 41212(2) and defensive at most, both narrow formations, the two CDM's, CB's and one full back can still snuff out the standard 1-2 through balls, pace ect of Musa, Martial, Mane and the other standard players.
The trouble comes when they aren't lightweight pace players. Lukaku and Firmino are much harder to defend for me than the Musa and Mane's. As long as you are patient and have strong defenders the standard sweat becomes a lot easier to defend with practise.

Currently using very different custom tactics to those from past few fifas chance creation wise, but similar for defence. As ever the key is keeping them in front of your defence!

Will post up my custom tactics and a bit of my last match in a bit.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on December 02, 2016, 04:19:16 am
Recorded the last match I played in the daily tournament earlier, in the quarter final. I gave away possession cheaply too many times, played a bit faster and direct then normal, and shut down the opponent quicker than if I was playing a more subtle opponent. Also conceded a horrendous goal where the goalkeeper threw it to a different player than I was aiming at, but should have known better than put myself in the situation of that happening.
A few times when I am on the attack though, the number of passing options, both risky and safe with this formation is apparent. Need to improve on this at the weekend though!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rs64Nbh7Xk
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Nophut on December 08, 2016, 01:31:54 am
Hey TWS, liked that 4th goal...

So what are your custom tactics and instructions?

It is the immediate dispossession in midfield that is killing me...   I can often stop them scoring for long periods - it is just the breaking them down.  I am playing 4231 also - do you send the CDMs forward on attacks?
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on December 08, 2016, 02:19:50 am
The CDM's, I have one on stay back and man mark. He would be a defensive CDM, a Luiz Gustavo, or Danielle De Rossi. The other would be more of an all rounder and decent passing and attacking stats and as much defending as possible. Maybe a bit of stamina to get up and down the pitch.
The crazy high pressure is avoidable. You have to try and keep it tight and the gaps will appear later on. I won a load of games by scoring in the final quarter once or twice against these guys in my first weekend league. Last weekend was tougher because the defence didn't feel as solid.
The problems start with Kante. He is like a cheat in CM. Autotackles and blocks everything and has unlimited stamina. They lost Ramires and got someone even more OP in place!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on December 14, 2016, 07:40:34 pm
Market is messed up - not sure if it's Xbox only.

Searching returns a page or 3 of expired items. You bid, but it seems like it's ignored & the timer simply runs down. Was looking to buy Dembele - currently going for 17.5k ... bid on 1 at 1.9k, ignored and expires. Bid on another at 2.4k ... same thing.

Some people making some great profit at the moment.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Nophut on December 14, 2016, 08:11:55 pm
Market is messed up - not sure if it's Xbox only.

Searching returns a page or 3 of expired items. You bid, but it seems like it's ignored & the timer simply runs down. Was looking to buy Dembele - currently going for 17.5k ... bid on 1 at 1.9k, ignored and expires. Bid on another at 2.4k ... same thing.

Some people making some great profit at the moment.

Not a good time to list stuff up then....

Shame I only have 700c right now!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on December 15, 2016, 06:02:50 am
Not a good time to list stuff up then....

Yeah, people listing for low starts are going to be losing coins.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on January 18, 2017, 03:48:58 am
There is apparently another glitch been discovered that means you can force the game to dc, and the person doing it doesn't get a loss. AND it works in the Weekend League! Going to be a joke this weekend if it gets out. May also explain why/how there have been so many people getting 40 wins of late. Were over 10 one week just gone.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on January 18, 2017, 03:51:06 am
https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/235591/ps4-no-loss-glitch/p1
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on January 19, 2017, 07:08:04 am
New patch in breaks game shocker!!!!!

Apparently now whenever anyone does a bog standard, normal rage quit, the opponent gets disconnected from the servers and a loss. You couldn't make it up could you?!

Can imagine the weekend league now if they don't fix it. Anyone losing will just quit out just before the final whistle. Will be a battle to get a single win. 95% of games will be losses for both players! This tops anything EA have ever broken before surely?

I'm not even going to attempt to play any FUT matches tonight.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on January 19, 2017, 12:46:16 pm
Happened to me in the final of the wl Qualifiers was winning 3-0 rounded his keeper and was slotting in a 4th only for him to quit, I press a to continue only to be kicked out of UT and come back to a DNF

Gonna try to get them auto qualify me through live chat as have seen it over yonder before, CBA trying again but have been sitting looking at

(https://gyazo.com/ade197a1a0510c8a77bdf4a426d06ab3.png)

for 4 hours now while playing clubs FFS gonna have to ring them tomorrow
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on January 19, 2017, 07:04:39 pm
WOW!

Marketing team running out ahead ... behind them the dev team can't keep up ...

Like you say ... shocker!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on January 19, 2017, 08:54:04 pm
Classic EA. Release patch, literally breaks game. Will they ever learn?
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on January 19, 2017, 09:19:17 pm
Got them to call me this morning, within minutes of submitting was called and from the UK which was nice 4 minutes chatting auto qualified and 4 premium gold packs for my trouble  ;D
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on January 20, 2017, 12:03:10 am
Great news Buddha.

Unless they fix this before the WL, I can see their call volume increasing significantly on Monday
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on January 21, 2017, 08:44:26 am
Feels weird not playing fut champs. Am a bit lost, think I'll have a bash on cod 😕
Mind you the form has been nothing short of terrible since the changes to the team with the PELE cash, so maybe not a bad thing
Have a good weekend gents
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on January 21, 2017, 01:14:33 pm
LOL ... yeah Simmo - agreed! Woke up this morning - nothing to stress about, no needing to sit & watch the kid.

It's pretty cool.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on January 21, 2017, 08:23:04 pm
I've not played a match on FUT since Tuesday now. Played four games of H2H seasons, but none of them lasted longer than 30 minutes in game minutes. Luckily the glitch doesn't happen in that mode though so got the wins.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on January 22, 2017, 03:21:04 am
Ok gents. I'm not a greatly gifted player in the grand scheme of things FUT. Experienced yes, but I have not been blessed with the talent to have awesome records and qualify every weekend with elite 1 or better, but I may just have had an epiphany with the purchase of toty Suarez and regular Ronaldo.

They come in to replace SIF Ronaldo and toty Messi, who in comparison felt no better than a ben yedder and Carrasco.  I know there are many situations where people say IF's are no better than the original and are purely EA money making machines, but in this case I totally agree.

SIF Ron vs Ron... even using Ron off chem at LF in a 4312 feels miles better than his 3.5m counterpart. So far always in position to threaten whereas sif was never there, even at the point in a 4321

Toty Messi vs Toty Suarez. Night and day. Barring Messi's exceptional dribbling Suarez goes for the full 90 mins and always is there to pickup the ball and head for goal.

Now all things being FUT, this may not last long, but praise the lord and long may the fun continue

PS. kiwi, get your lad to try Suarez and get heading for that number 1 spot

Update: just won the tourney at the 1st attempt. Loving this team
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on January 22, 2017, 07:26:22 am
Hmmm ...  interesting Simmo. He has actually mentioned getting him, but it would mean selling off all 4 legends for him :D.

The legends unfortunately does give the ability to use a non BBVA CAM (4312).

The struggle ...
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on January 22, 2017, 08:02:26 am
This is the team now. I have added in TOTY Iniesta, where previously I had André Gomes and subbed on Griezmann. Don't really think it has made much of a difference so far, not for the 640k vs the 180k for Griez

(https://s28.postimg.org/ocoptia2l/21_01_2017_20_38_33.png)

Kiwi, 4 legends are a lot to give up especially if you are used to their play style and they obviously bring you success.  Stick or twist I suppose. Legends tend to hold their value better also.  Maybe Suarez will drop a little early next week before the usual hike for the WL.  I got him for Ł3.8m

Also since the last post I'm 9 straight wins with no defeats. Damn where is the WL when you need it 😀
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on January 22, 2017, 08:07:17 am
Mate ... already selling ... thanks! :D LOL
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on January 22, 2017, 08:08:09 am
Also ... one contributing factor is the fact that if the kid is playing in regionals with a full club (that's the theory at this stage), then it will be great to get some games under the belt with him!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on January 22, 2017, 08:16:15 am
Good team mate - how has Iniesta been?

it's the first UT (since '12) that we've not considered getting his TOTY :(
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on January 22, 2017, 09:26:40 am
Nice one kiwi. I hope you, and the lad have great success with him.

I'm sure in more skilled hands he'll be even more deadly.

Iniesta,... he's good but for me not much better than the regular card, and not at cam. Modric would be better suited, but had no issues with Griezmann.  Thinking of trying TIF Eriksson as a sub in.  Will see
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on January 22, 2017, 09:51:59 am
Thank you mate - was good to get the "gentle nudge" too! Appreciate that.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on January 22, 2017, 11:38:32 am
Finished the night on 11-2-0 which for me is sensational form.

4 wins in the tourney, 5 straight in div 4 to get promoted, then 2 draws and 2 wins in div 3

I'm a solid div 4 player, but div 3 always was a one season and see ya thing..... until now..... I hope 😐
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on January 22, 2017, 12:10:04 pm
Good stuff mate, well done!! That D3 is definitely "a hump".

I accidentally listed Veron for 12 hrs ... D'OH! Obviously others have undercut me now, so now waiting on Zanetti to sell. Could've kept him, but decided to bring in TOTY Dani for the link to Chiellini.

Might be able to try out Suarez today, but the prices notoriously go up during the course of our day. Damn!

Edit ... Veron sold - shockingly :o.

... and now the lowest BIN is 4M for Suarez ... but, it has a 3.7M start. Hope nobody else is watching ... :D
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on January 22, 2017, 05:56:39 pm
@Simmo ... Damn! That is quite a card!

First 5 games with him - 9 goals, 2 assists. This is what I used him in:
(http://i.imgur.com/gp5pfqS.png)

Also, must give a huge shout-out to James - struggled previously with him as a wide CM, or wide CAM. In the 5 games, he scored 6 and assisted 6 times. Love him! Definitely recommend him over Modric in that position.

Started with this team when we were 3-1-0 in Seasons (D1). Kid had a loss firstly and then had to head out. I gave them a few fitnesses and won 5 in a row. Best was the final game - needing a draw (minimum) - 7-2 win with both Suarez & Ronaldo got ratings of 10.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on January 22, 2017, 07:25:33 pm
Nice one.  Pleased he's working out for you bud.

James.... that's one guy I've just never been able to get along with in any fut to date. Might give him a whirl.

I'm currently trying IF Tevez at the cam slot, but nothing to note so far
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on January 23, 2017, 08:16:10 am
I think James is one guy where play style needs to suit him. I do like long shots (these days probably defined as 18-22 yard range), and he hits them really sweetly. The majority of his goals has come from that mark, a number from corners where I pass it to a player making a run to the corner of the 18-yard box.

But, having said that, this was in his first game that I played:
(http://i.imgur.com/LuoBEMb.gif)

Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on January 23, 2017, 07:30:13 pm
Nice strike. Had a mixed day yesterday but did come across some very good players and was trying all different players at cam.

Lewandowski, IF Tevez, Griezmann, Marchisio, TOTGS Giuliani have come and gone and now with TIF Eriksson in that role as sub.  Again he's ok, but not that 'special'.  Thinking of getting Ibra back, but will wait till his POTM is out of the picture for his price to half.  Also thought about giving Hagi, Nedved, and Luis Hernández a shot, but will see.

I want a settled team before the weekend
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on January 23, 2017, 08:12:13 pm
Well mate, that is such a crucial role, and if you have a single league team, then I suppose you're stuck with those in that league - unless you're subbing on of course.

The one very-consistent player throughout the kid's best performances, was Bergkamp. The CAM/CF role is simply his.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on January 23, 2017, 09:16:14 pm
The rest of the team I can't fault, apart from sometimes Pogba is a little ponderous on the ball.

I have andre Gomes at cam to start and I sub on the proper cam to keep Suarez at 10 chemo

Bergkamp would be ideal, but just out of my price range.  Ibra played great there in my old BPL team

Did also think Griggs or Overmars ???

Too many decisions
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Cart79 on January 24, 2017, 04:47:49 am
Hey guys, the dust has settled on some modest toty spending, not on totys tho sadly.  Sold my tif eriksen, did enjoy him briefly just not consistently getting enough out of him.  Sold Sanchez too and brought in 88 Kane and SIF arnautouvic after reading good reviews. 

Great decision, thoroughly enjoyed all my games since and turned my form around.   Loving arnau, so big strong and mobile just powers past opponents on his wing.  Can see see their fear soon as he gets on the ball, loving it.   Kane seemed great, has scored a goal a game inc 3 mins into his debut but there are some question marks about him.  Reckon he could have had double the goals if he played as I hoped.  Few times, and I've noticed this with other ifs, you go to smash the ball and he produces a really weak effort, usually a first time shot.  Expect more from a card with this shooting.  Will see how he does tonight but may sell if he can't excel a bit more. 

Oh and I'm a Rodriguez fan.  His dribbling is awesome as are some of his shots.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on January 25, 2017, 12:34:41 am
Nice one Eric. TIF Eriksson has been improving for me but still not sold.  Have brought in James  for a few games and he hasn't done anything wrong so far.

Also heard good things on 88 Kane. Ibra like apparently.  If so would fit into the role for me perfectly and Arnoutovic might too.  Hadn't given Sánchez a thought. Hmmm

On ibra, I see they've increased his price range to 850k. Wonder how quickly he will fall back to the 320k level I sold mine for.  At that price id get him back but not touching anything over 400k. Darn

Tim Cahill SBC..... done it but meh.  Could've made him back to his 'prime'.... if he had one
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on January 27, 2017, 05:13:27 am
I did the Cahill SBC as well with Untradable Australians from the bronze upgrades and a collection of mediocre La Liga players.

The big news though is that the patch that EA released this afternoon has done absolutely nothing to fix the no loss, or DC glitches. So the game is in exactly the same state it was a week ago when they cancelled the weekend league.......
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on January 28, 2017, 08:00:43 pm
Got a free 125k pack in the madness yesterday, but it was not good at all. Got one 84 rated player, Jose Reina, but at least in was free I guess.
Did the marquee matchups and was on the way to my usual nothing, when suddenly the last pack gave me Barzagli and Payet, two 86 rated players! Followed that up by opening a 7.5k discounted jumbo. Got Bailly! Followed that up with a discounted 17.5k mega pack. Got Bellerin who went for 7k. Thought that was time to stop!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on January 28, 2017, 08:40:21 pm
LOL ... good one mate.

Our 125k pack got IF Draxler - happy with that. Insane looking card actually.

But, did similar to you with some discounted packs too - no one of note, but didn't really lose many coins. Surprisingly in 2 of them, got some rare Ligue 1 silvers - one going for 7k. A bit laughable that - gold packs, but the highest value cards are silvers.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on January 29, 2017, 07:27:09 am
So ... a little story ...

Lying in bed, checked on the Companion App that Suarez had sold overnight - he did. Checked on Messi and a few listed - got him for 3.1M - a cool 220k less than last night. Great start! Bought NIF Griezmann too as he'll be subbed on.

Saw the Promo packs - Rare Mega's now for 27.5k. Decided what the heck, saved the money on Messi so bought the 5 packs. Given that out of the 5, got another 21 Squad fitnesses and the likes of Bailly, Walker, Mata in there, I wasn't too disappointed.

But then ... finally ...
(http://i.imgur.com/F3zRD1g.png)

... first legend ever. Not the best one out there, but 300k and a legend pull ... finally! Such a shame he's so short and literally unusable in WL/higher Divs.

Tick that box on the "UT Bucket List" ...
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on January 30, 2017, 07:21:43 am
Decided to buy the 50k Jumbo Rare Players packs. 2nd legend in 2 days ... this one was HEAPS better!

(http://i.imgur.com/X8tfTAp.png)

Absolutely stoked!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on January 30, 2017, 09:13:10 am
Decided to buy the 50k Jumbo Rare Players packs. 2nd legend in 2 days ... this one was HEAPS better!

Absolutely stoked!

Erm, just a little better yes.... haha

Nice one for a cool 3 mill
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on January 31, 2017, 08:06:05 pm
We have another promo weekend on its way. Winter ones to watch from 3rd to 10th Feb. SBC's, packs etc, etc

I'm just hoping for a stable connection in FUT champs
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on February 01, 2017, 01:18:21 am
I have also give Zlatan a transfer.  He wasn't happy with not being in the starting XI and his role as super sub  ;D

Have an able replacement in Neymar to jump straight in. On 4 chem he is surprisingly working and his dribbling and speed helps me setup far more effective attacks. A keeper for the WL I think
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on February 01, 2017, 02:15:06 am
Neymar is one you very rarely see this year. Haven't used him myself, but I think people say his stamina is an issue.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on February 01, 2017, 12:06:36 pm
Think i have forgotten how to play this game !!!  Don't know whats going on can't for the life of me use any version of 4-3-3 anymore players stand still looking at the ball no runs no cover just don't know.

only joy i'm getting is from 3-4-2-1 or 3-4-1-2 but i know that my losing streak is that bad i'm not playing the better players and when i do they can rip 3 CB's apart.

All 8 attempts used up and only 1 final to show for it, think this weekend will be a miss for me pity really but i need to try and find a happy medium with my formations
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on February 01, 2017, 06:19:05 pm
There's still time Buddha.

Personally this year i have been using nothing but a 2 striker formation, primarily the 4312, and wouldn't change from that as it's nice and compact but not too rigid.  The cam slot is the key to it working and they always seem to find space to link to the forwards. Solid midfield in behind that and your set.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Cart79 on February 06, 2017, 11:42:31 am
Do we think prices will stay low once these motm and otw cards are finished?  The likes of aguer o and bale are as low as I have seen them, not too mention just about every other card.  Possible big name totw coming so might drive prices down further?
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on February 06, 2017, 03:00:44 pm
Wouldn't think so Eric EA have been good at boosting prices with SBC and with BPL POTM they will more than likely look for some high rated squads just to boost prices. Also the weekend league after next is full BPL requirement
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on February 06, 2017, 03:19:56 pm
Kiwi have you tried either of the Laudrups this year looking at maybe Micheal  but the low Physical in this game is a concern.

Might just go with Van Basten again
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on February 06, 2017, 06:12:08 pm
I do think it will be a packed TOTW, so packs might spur some FP sales. But, with coins being earned from WL payouts (last week = not payout = decline in prices), I think there'll be a spike.

Laudrups - no mate, not used either, sorry.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on February 07, 2017, 05:59:05 am
See Nepenthez has himself in a spot of hot water

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37385555 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37385555)

I'll be surprised if EA would let anyone bringing bad publicity to their baby continue to let someone be allowed to associate themselves with their game. Lifetime ban should be his punishment. That would hurt him far more than a fine or even a prison sentence
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Cart79 on February 09, 2017, 09:02:32 pm
Hey guys.   was looking for some advice on potential purchases.   As I might've mentioned elsewhere im looking for a star player for my prem or la liga side.  Don't have much of a preference between them, both very effective (and not nooby!) ill post at some point.   Anyway ive been studying reviews and all sorts trying to determine who would be my best option.  So without further ado ill get to my thoughts:

Shortlist (currently) Bale, Suarez, Aguero, Neymar, TIF Lukaku? (88) and Griezmann (Hazard possibly)
Current budget without any sales:  330k plus any pack luck from tonight (probably none)
Other issues:  Play 433 in both teams, NIF Lukaku and TOGS Aduriz are both excellent.  Had 87 Lukaku and he played worse than NIF.

I was thinking Griezmann might be the way to go, and possibly even to try get Griezmann and Suarez and change to a 2 up top formation.   But why break a winning formula?  But to keep same formation and buy either of those would mean that my current star man and top club scorer would have to go.

Suarez was very tempting and his price is great at moment due to SBC, but he has low balance and if a decent amount of people have him from SBC, kinda takes shine off purchase of NIF version, possibly.

In short though, would be good to know of the above guys who you would recommend most based on your experience.

Got Bale in two drafts last night, didn't really do it for me.  But not sure id right him off based on that.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on February 10, 2017, 03:05:41 am
Eric,

Of those you mention below, I have tried all apart from lukaku.

Bale. Seen others use him to great effect, but given him 2 chances at ST & RF and never really did anything special to justify his price or play like the stats of his card suggest.
Suarez. Obviously the TOTY version I'm using is tremendous. The complete striker. His nif, and the importance of decent pace, might be more suited to a CAM. Has great positioning though and his strength is spot on.
Aguero. Was delighted to pack him, but was left a little disappointed. Lethal when in the right position, but does go wandering. Not strong on the ball. I much preferred Ibra
Neymar. Used the nif & packed his TOTGS version. NIF is decent enough and silky dribbling makes up for his lack of strength. His TOTGS is great and played over 400 games for me. Better suited in a pair
Griezmann. Currently in my 2nd team and have used him plenty. Does everything well. Again might struggle as a lone striker as he does drift to find space to assist or score.

Of those, I'd pick Griezy then Neymar, but would change to a 2 striker formation and pair with a stronger partner. Also worthy mentions would go to Dybala (similar to Griez) & IF Ben Yedder (mini Suarez). If you fancy something different, could try TOTGS Guiliano, who I used with Neymar. 5 star skills & WF 
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on February 10, 2017, 06:18:07 am
Have quite similar experiences with Simmo, Eric.

Aguero (untradeable) ... just does not do much. Maybe it's the psychological aspect that he's untradeable so don't get the best out of him. I kinda get surprised when I come up against him as I always think he's pretty meh.

Bale is one I've only tried a bit (RW) and did like him, but that's due to me taking long shots too much ;D.

I reckon for "bang for your buck" .... Griezmann is the one. But, I do also agree then that he needs a partner - possibly even partnering Aduriz to start with?
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Cart79 on February 10, 2017, 08:16:26 am
Hey guys thanks for the response.  Kinda confirms what I was thinking,  prices gone back up a good bit tonight on suarez and bale so probably just hold off for now.  Might go for griezmann, did play 5 games last night and won them all so happy with teams as they are, just had the itch to spend some coins but I can wait till weekend see how prices go.  Suarez up to 370 bin when I saw him at 305 yesterday so don't think I'll go there now.  Bale up about 20k as well and griezmann maybe 10.

If I do anything it probably would be griezmann in a 4312 alongside Aduriz.  Always fancied dybala too Simmo and he's always a threat when I play against him but other reviews I've seen give griezmann edge possibly if anything.  Don't think I'm ready to make a. Series a team yet though so might revisit that at a later date.   Good to be forewarned about aguero, nif lukaku been on fire for me anyway.  Like you say kiwi I don't recall many games either where he has caused me too many problems. 

Didn't get much good in wl packs.  Nif Aduriz highest rated and bailly most valuable.  Anyone rate bailly? I've one in my club not used yet, got smalling and kos and I've never had much reason to change that.  Bailly seems dam strong as an opponent though. 
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on February 10, 2017, 09:29:03 am
Bailly does tend to wander. Great if you have a limited budget, but Kos and Smalling are by far the best 2
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on February 10, 2017, 12:31:27 pm
As Simmo said he does wander if you are looking for a new recruit beside Smalling it would have to be IF Reid class player
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Cart79 on February 10, 2017, 09:07:12 pm
That's cool i'll just stick with what I've got then.  Have played IF Reid a few times and he always seems a worthy foe.   Very strong too, suppose that's a bit of a given for a CB tho especially an IF one.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Cart79 on February 15, 2017, 01:47:23 am
Surely the upgrades should be imminent?
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on February 15, 2017, 02:40:42 am
I reckon Friday. They seem to be promo mad these days, so will be some special packs no doubt.

Next one will be fut birthday, then St Patrick, then TOTS
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on February 15, 2017, 05:49:25 pm
I reckon it'll be this weekend as well. Something always happens when they have Marquee Matchups out earlier in the week than Thursday/Friday.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on February 15, 2017, 08:50:16 pm
So ... does anybody track, or heard of FIFARenderz? Saw a post re: OTW Hummels going up, then went to the Twitter account. Seems like they leak it each week, so this is interesting:

(http://i.imgur.com/HGn7xsS.png)

FUTbin hasn't registered the price increase on Higuain - you can see the leaked card was 15 min ago.

Seems like an account to follow, especially if there are OTW cards predicted. Not saying it's a definite, but can easily make coins if you get in quick, grab a couple of cards, then sell off during the hype. Pretty safe stuff, especially if you sell off before the TOTW is released and they potentially don't get in.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on February 15, 2017, 09:01:47 pm
Seems like it's still only a prediction, rather than a leak.

Oh well ... guess so many follow the hype you could still make coins off it ... ;D
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Cart79 on February 15, 2017, 10:17:57 pm
Have just been reading about a similar situation with Mane, a potential 86 card for him and therefore his OTW card has sky rocketed.   Always feel you've a short window to get onto these things with the autobuyers etc out there.   So I'll just stick.   Cant imagine a 92 Higuain is any more useful than a 91 card in game but do appreciate that hype may increase price.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on February 16, 2017, 02:31:03 am
well well well looks like 3 of my OTW cards are getting upped  ;D

Knew Mane would but my main man Higgy and Hummels just in time for next week will need to pick up IF Leno too
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on February 16, 2017, 02:32:02 am
Will see if the 92 is better than the 91 later on when my otw card gets upp'ed. Great stats but his lack of pace shows against the quicker defenders.

Pretty stacked totw and I'm sure martial will appear in most peoples squads come Friday. I'll make do with the regular card I think. No one else that catches my interest.

Tried IF Torres last night.  More a move of hope that he'd roll back to his Liverpool years.... sadly not. Pace... crap, movement..... crap and stamina  :o :o shocking... dogs shite. Also tried SIF N'zonzi. Sorry just dont see the hype. Gone
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on February 16, 2017, 04:23:06 am
Brought in the big man last night and first game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxKdz6C4GCc
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on February 16, 2017, 05:24:32 am
Well, 1x Pace, 1x Shooting and 1x Dribbling increase on Higuain is not massive, but given we have an untradeable card - don't mind much. It's a shame these cards won't be upped with TOTS cards ... that's a pity.

I see his FIF price is currently double his OTW ... SMH!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on February 18, 2017, 04:56:12 am
Upgrades  :o

Kante 85
POTM Son & Alli 84 & 86
Mane 87

God knows how many more
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on February 18, 2017, 05:37:15 am
Upgrades  :o

Kante 85
POTM Son & Alli 84 & 86
Mane 87

God knows how many more


https://www.futbin.com/17/rating-refresh?page=3
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Cart79 on February 18, 2017, 05:45:21 am
Just seeing these upgrades, liking van dijk very much, iheanacho too, also the gueye looks a decent card and wouldn't say no to Kante either
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on February 18, 2017, 06:50:16 am
Just played my first game with my new 87 Mane and 85 Kante  ;D Mane stamina upgrade makes so much of a difference 99 pace too

Game only lasted 45 mins 2 goals in the 45th for me saw a rage quit at HT really don't know if i will make it through the games feeling crap woke up this morning and couldn't move my legs feeling weak AF at the moment.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on February 18, 2017, 07:31:41 am
That Mane card looks freakin' terrifying!

Some of the upgrades are quite daft. Alonso for instance ... 11 points IG. ELEVEN. Yes, he's rare now. But who cares. Funny on his IF price - it actually dropped 13k after upgrades were released!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on February 18, 2017, 07:37:59 am
Message on the console ... "over 400 players" 17th to 27th of Feb.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on February 18, 2017, 07:46:22 am
That Mane card looks freakin' terrifying!

Some of the upgrades are quite daft. Alonso for instance ... 11 points IG. ELEVEN. Yes, he's rare now. But who cares. Funny on his IF price - it actually dropped 13k after upgrades were released!

https://www.futbin.com/17/compare/15106/2
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on February 19, 2017, 08:47:28 am
Very very tempted to sell off IF Kante, pickup the upgrade version and get OTW Mane. Hmm
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on February 19, 2017, 09:09:02 am
Serie A upgrades tomorrow. Good chance higuain gets a +1. That OTW card will be 93 I suppose.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on February 19, 2017, 09:46:09 am
Sure its not the prem why give good upgrades
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on February 19, 2017, 11:34:07 am
Sure its not the prem why give good upgrades

That's the chatter on the dark side. Serie A.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on February 20, 2017, 06:12:25 am
Sure its not the prem why give good upgrades

That's the chatter on the dark side. Serie A.

What i meant was that the upgrades won't be as good as the prem

and i was right

(https://media.easports.com/content/www-easports/en_US/fifa/ultimate-team/news/2017/ratings-refresh-calcio-a/_jcr_content/par/image_20.img.jpg)

+1 passing +1 def  = overall +1  ???
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on February 20, 2017, 07:20:13 am
Wow. At least give the guy 40 defence, then people be joyful about a 20+ stat increase. So helpful that +1 increase though. SMH!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on February 20, 2017, 07:31:46 am
Sure its not the prem why give good upgrades

That's the chatter on the dark side. Serie A.

What i meant was that the upgrades won't be as good as the prem

and i was right

(https://media.easports.com/content/www-easports/en_US/fifa/ultimate-team/news/2017/ratings-refresh-calcio-a/_jcr_content/par/image_20.img.jpg)

+1 passing +1 def  = overall +1  ???

That is just madness. What are they playing at?
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on February 20, 2017, 01:52:17 pm
Also Nainggolan

84   IG

(https://gyazo.com/5a3d0cad3804374da84cb8e9c761a2be.png)

85   IG

(https://gyazo.com/e44f4cabd8cd574ca8e17942aaaf46d6.png)




So glad i have an untradeable 84
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on February 20, 2017, 02:21:27 pm
Pretty pathetic in some cases. I certainly get that some of these cards are second or third IF's, so the upgrades cannot be huge.

But, it's the EA hype machine that actually fails in this process.

Good to see downgrades - Schweiny, Terry ... that's fair.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on February 26, 2017, 08:06:00 am
OOOhhhh

(https://gyazo.com/e4e5a507969ba9a71216da89cc021dd8.png)

Looking forward to using him  ;D

And a Boateng downgrade might not lose so much now.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on February 26, 2017, 09:17:40 am
Yeah - we've got his red and the kid is using him as a super-sub.

The Boateng downgrade is an interesting one. Don't really track Bundes IRL but for FUT purposes, it is an OP card. Think the 89 will also be pretty great IG, and possibly more affordable for others.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on February 26, 2017, 09:38:20 am
Yeah - we've got his red and the kid is using him as a super-sub.



That +8 pace is the big big difference before the upgrade he lacked that pep to get around a chasing FB but now he's gone once around someone 
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Cart79 on February 27, 2017, 12:04:26 am
OOOhhhh

(https://gyazo.com/e4e5a507969ba9a71216da89cc021dd8.png)

Looking forward to using him  ;D

And a Boateng downgrade might not lose so much now.
. Have you used him yet Buddha? Was thinking to use him in a French side
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on February 27, 2017, 02:13:38 am
OOOhhhh

(https://gyazo.com/e4e5a507969ba9a71216da89cc021dd8.png)

Looking forward to using him  ;D

And a Boateng downgrade might not lose so much now.
. Have you used him yet Buddha? Was thinking to use him in a French side

Yea Eric love him so much so am thinking of keeping my Bundesliga team, tidy on the ball close dribbling and his shooting is much improved finesse for days  ;D

As said that pace increase makes so much of a difference getting around the likes of Alaba and Marcello difference since Friday to yesterday
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Cart79 on February 27, 2017, 12:01:52 pm
I've drafted about 4 teams I might spend my coins on but the prices have crept up on a lot of potential recruits except the la liga ones (bought griez albeit hunter on fri for 130 saw he was as low as 90 earlier  >:( ) so I'll probably just continue to hold fire on spending hopefully get somethihing in my packs come Thursday
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on February 27, 2017, 05:03:15 pm
Yeah Eric ... another anomaly for this market ?!?!

Started seeing the prices rise on all others, bar the Bundes/La Liga ones. Obviously people are selling off - that's understandable, but sometimes I just don't understand that it continues to drop significantly.

SMH ...
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Cart79 on March 03, 2017, 09:16:52 am
Stats on the new naingollan IF look ridiculously good
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on March 03, 2017, 03:58:29 pm
Stats on the new naingollan IF look ridiculously good

Indeed ... by position ... :o :o Nothing lower than an 87 rated Striker!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on March 03, 2017, 09:04:52 pm
Was oh so close to selling up early this morning, but dont know what I'd change to.

Thinking maybe sell Suarez, do the la liga SBC for the 94 version, maybe pickup bale and toty modric and maybe a legend midfielder.

Or sell Ron and Suarez and get toty Ron

Or sell Suarez and get toty messi and do the liga SBC

Need something to change to re-fire the spark
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on March 03, 2017, 09:16:11 pm
Last week I used our NIF (untradeable) Dybala and OTW Higuain - 91 at that point ... absolutely LOVED them! Out 'n out the best strike pair (for a club), in the game!

So, the kid decided this month is a relatively relaxed month - Top 10 qualifies. So, Sold off IF Martial and bought SIF Dybala (88) and he used him next to OTW Higuain.

I must firstly say that the kid is a bit of an elitist. "Higuain is too chubby", "He doesn't have skills", bla bla. Well, he played 6 games with them with Gullit at CAM - 5 wins, scoring 23 and 4 rage quits in there.

His comment after 3/4 games ... "OTW Higuain - is the best striker he's used".

So, Simmo - try something slightly different. Put Suarez & Ronaldo on the bench for a bit and try them. I don't think the tax loss is worth it. You'll go back to them at a point and love 'em again. Just my thoughts ...
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on March 05, 2017, 11:24:21 am
Ok, so this weekend league'less weekend has proved more fruitful than I imagined.

Finally after many eon's of trying I finally broke the hump of Div 3 and waged a war in my final game and won with a last min Mane goal to take it 5-4 and get promoted to Div 2. It may not last long but at least I now know I can do it.

I'm starting to imagine the horrors that lie in wait   :-\

On the team, I had a little bit of the Rainieri's in me and I took out Kante and David Alaba for a well deserved rest.  Playing the 4321 still, moved ronaldo to RF, added a silver real Madrid LM into the LF slot, flipped Renato Sánches and Boateng to the right side, pogba & Smalling to the left, added Luke Shaw and also SIF Semedo at RB. Finally for the CCM role I splashed on MOTM Casemiro.  Obviously I sub on OTW Mane for the silver and keep Kante and Alaba for late super subs if needed. Also fiddled with the custom tactics along the lines of one of the pro players which I changed to suit me more after a few games

(https://s7.postimg.org/4hy2b6a4r/05_03_2017_00_13_22.png)

Good news is Ron and Suarez are firing again (fingers crossed) and am pleased I didn't sell up. It was painful, playing that bad, but hopefully out the other side now
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on March 05, 2017, 09:28:27 pm
Well done and good luck in D2 mate.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on March 05, 2017, 10:10:18 pm
Well done and good luck in D2 mate.

Cheers bud.  Played 3, won 1 and drew 2 against some stacked teams. Need to up the game and would like to qual for next weekend through the league
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on March 06, 2017, 08:38:38 am
Good one mate.

It is good if you can hover around there, knowing it's another source for qual. My only concern is connections - the general WL servers are so much better.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on March 12, 2017, 07:59:03 am
I remembered back at the start (well, some playing the beta) that on pics FUThead that there was "defending positioning/lines" issue. They then responded saying that after playing the game, it was "all ok".

The kid lost a game y'day where he conceded, blaming the AI defending. At first I said he can't always blame the game, but afterwards he checked the replay.

He is controlling Blanc (circled) & Ramos is marking the striker heading off left ... and Jordi is AI controlled ...
(http://i.imgur.com/JiAqOEn.png)

WTF is Jordi doing in them middle ... providing support for Ramos/Blanc ?!?!

No doubt it was an easy goal for his opponent - kid lost 2-3.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Cart79 on March 14, 2017, 08:57:10 pm
This seemed the best place to comment on players that I like the look of.   I used the IF Arnautovic before at LW and he was a good player, bit of a juggernaut once he got going and deceptively quick.  Having looked at stats of SIF? the current one anyway, he could be pretty awesome, stick a hunter card on him and play him a striker and stats wise he would be something else.   To be honest not something id usually do but im kinda curious as to how effective he could be in that position. 

Ive gone off the BPL this fifa already though, might just be temporary, but I think I prefer teams from other leagues as feel a bit more original.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on March 17, 2017, 03:26:03 pm
http://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/260338/player-of-the-month-challenge-not-recognizing-team-of-the-week-players/p1

Best laugh i have had in a while  ;D
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on March 17, 2017, 08:39:11 pm
LOL ... that is hilarious! Poor guy - lost to the forum's forever.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on March 20, 2017, 05:07:12 pm
Thanks for the couple of games last night Buddha.

Both laggy for both of us. Think if it was a good connection you probably would've picked up both wins.

New lag experienced. In about 5 games yesterday at varying times, rather than the speed up or usual stuttering lag, I was getting a total freeze of the game for about 5-10 seconds, then when the game resumed play had been on going, and in a few cases a goal scored against. This has likely caused relegation back to Div 4 unless i can win 4 on the spin.

This must improve, but with the birthday promo thing, yet again, their servers probably will not be able to cope
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on April 10, 2017, 08:21:26 am
Game play is as slick as I can ever remember it this year in seasons. Joy to play, just hoping it stays like this
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on April 11, 2017, 08:10:26 am
Back in Division 2 after a dreadful run following the weekend league last week sent me spiralling down to Div 5.

The team feels great and have added IF De Marcos at RB. Highly recommend if you are searching in la liga or have Spanish links
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on April 12, 2017, 05:34:08 am
Played Divisions for the first time on Monday night. We were still in D1, with a few wins. Managed to stay up - actually a bit of a struggle in the end getting the last point in the final game.

Overall - probably 8 games - and only the last one was laggy ... quite a bit too. But, not as bad as previous sessions on P2P. QUite enjoyable & might see me return to that with all the d!ckheads in WL & qualifiers.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Cart79 on April 12, 2017, 08:07:23 am
Servers on seasons awful tonight can barely get a game, managed 2, the second with stuttering lag throughout second half.  Get disconnected from ea sports on menus for about 3rd time tonight, can't find any opponents now  ::) pretty hopeless really
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on April 12, 2017, 03:15:07 pm
As I said above seasons was a joy over the weekend. Just shows how much EA continue to underestimate or choose to ignore the server power needed to support its flagship game.

The whole e-sports thing should make them more than aware now that the service they are currently providing is way short of what it needs to be.

If they can't get their regionals to work on 16 players, what chance do we have.

Apart from the WL qualifiers I did play a few Div 2 games and the difference is clear. Going from knowing you have a fair chance in a game to literally putting it down to a toss up on who has the better connection. You know from the first pass almost if your in a battle against not just your opponent but the game. That's where I feel 'momentum' comes into play. The game sometimes compensates giving crucial breaks to a player if connection is not the best.

The game I played in last nights final was a prime example. Totally dominated by my opponent and connection was not great, but playable, I took the only chance I was given after a multi shot/rebound squirmed out conveniently to Torres for a slide in to the empty net. There was nothing the guy could've done to prevent it. Then on his many attacks he hit the post 3 times and crossbar when it was easier to score. I've felt for a while now that a fair percentage of games you go into are predetermined
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Cart79 on April 12, 2017, 07:19:13 pm
what happened with the regionals Simmo?  Presume there were connection issues during that?   Whilst I did have some issues on the WL with connection this weekend on the whole I don't think I've had it as bad as some.   Strangely now I seem to be getting worse connection in seasons during the last 2 weeks than in WL, its like they divert all there paltry resources to the WL (which is still insufficient) then afterwards maybe they turn loads of servers off or perhaps they prioritise the qualifiers, whatever it is its making seasons unplayable.   I'm not that fussed as WL is where the money is at etc but we should be able to play the various modes online at anytime, without these ongoing issues. 

I don't mind a FUT break after the weekend I just don't like it when its enforced and not through choice.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on April 13, 2017, 02:39:58 am
Ask kiwi jnr about his experience. Got robbed in a game which could have seen him through to the next stage.  They also had problems in Miami
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on April 13, 2017, 05:09:25 am
Hey Eric - had a pretty lengthy post (about the whole experience) in the Members Only section.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Cart79 on April 14, 2017, 06:33:28 am
Just read it kiwi sounds utterly shambolic, would expect a far more slick professional setup from a global company like EA. 
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on April 14, 2017, 09:45:36 pm
Ok ... so something strange just happened (for the good ;)

Refreshed the web app whilst watching a movie (The Great Wall btw ... :D). There was an unassigned item - this:
(http://i.imgur.com/PzRHPH3.png)

Sent to club and could still see him, so no glitch.

Not going to complain.

Edit - read on the dark side it looks like compensation ... LOL

Edit #2 ... seems like it's due to pulling the NIF in the Ultimate Team Birthday pack. Didn't even notice it as it was so crap!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: sherlockh on April 15, 2017, 08:47:28 am
Glad I sold tif hazard last weekend, got 950k for him, he's now at 675k.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on April 18, 2017, 07:32:35 am
Just read it kiwi sounds utterly shambolic, would expect a far more slick professional setup from a global company like EA. 

Been meaning to respond ...

Yeah mate, it's been ... um ... interesting ... to deal with them. Just gone through all the arrangements for the travel this week. Given it's not Sydney - just a 'hop over the ditch', and the fact that some of our best friends are in Vancouver, the missus is going with.

The comms with the people arranging it, is a mess ... right now I (we) don't know if the hotel checkout is Saturday or Sunday & it's less than a week to go. SMH. Might not be important for others, but our mates are actually collecting them from Whistler and they need to arrange things (Whistler is approx. 2 hrs drive from Vancouver).

Certainly hope this is a good one as I guess the whole experience for something like this, should be quite amazing for an 18yo. I mean if it was me when I was 18, I'd be 'deer in the headlights' stuff heading to a new country, competing for real money, experiencing a 14-hr flight (LOL!), seeing the world ... etc. Maybe I should also set a better expectation with him - just didn't think I'd need to tbh.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Cart79 on April 18, 2017, 08:17:28 am
Not ignoring your post kiwi just seeing if this upload works:


What I'd describe as an erm hooked volley finish. 
         
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Cart79 on April 18, 2017, 08:23:41 am
Kiwi help? I tried what you said except on the dvr site, obviously hasnt worked, any idea what's wrong?

Re the trip check in details etc are a pretty important bit of info when travelling, pretty poor not to lamps at this stage.   I know I'm picking story up a bit late but why is he going to Vancouver?  Is it a different regional or did he progeess from the Sydney one?  It's definitely a massive experience for a kid/adult that age, certainly hadn't done anything like that at that stage in my life, or probably still for that matter  :D I'd probably be too nervous to hold the joypad without dropping it.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on April 18, 2017, 09:05:05 am
Edited your post - you need to manually add the html bits, before and after. Edit your post and check that out.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on April 18, 2017, 09:09:36 am
Kiwi help? I tried what you said except on the dvr site, obviously hasnt worked, any idea what's wrong?

Re the trip check in details etc are a pretty important bit of info when travelling, pretty poor not to lamps at this stage.   I know I'm picking story up a bit late but why is he going to Vancouver?  Is it a different regional or did he progeess from the Sydney one?  It's definitely a massive experience for a kid/adult that age, certainly hadn't done anything like that at that stage in my life, or probably still for that matter  :D I'd probably be too nervous to hold the joypad without dropping it.

I'm with you - be super-duper nervous! Funnily enough he has a pretty cavalier attitude - good & bad IMO. :D

This is "Season 2" of the regional qualifiers. Madrid, Sydney & Miami were Season 1 - top 16 in November FUT Champs qualified. For Season 2, top 16 in January FUT Champs qualified. Originally it was supposed to be Singapore for the Rest of World, but I think with the challenges they've had, they decided it's easier to have 2 in 2 days in Vancouver.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on April 18, 2017, 09:09:57 am
Re: the vid  ... "hooked volley finish" ... funny!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Cart79 on April 18, 2017, 09:16:39 am
Edited your post - you need to manually add the html bits, before and after. Edit your post and check that out.

That's odd I had put them in manually, took great care to do so, maybe next time.  Got some others to try too. 

Ah ok got you now re the regionals..  It's a pretty cool opportunity is it safe to assume that EA are paying for the flights?
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on April 18, 2017, 11:34:14 am
Edited your post - you need to manually add the html bits, before and after. Edit your post and check that out.

That's odd I had put them in manually, took great care to do so, maybe next time.  Got some others to try too. 

Ah ok got you now re the regionals..  It's a pretty cool opportunity is it safe to assume that EA are paying for the flights?

Yeah - all his side is taken care of. Ticket for missus at short notice was :o! But ... it did sort out her birthday and anniversary gift all at the same time (both in April) ;D

Overall, I think this is brilliant what EA is doing. It is just so unfortunate that the community makes it farcical at times.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Cart79 on April 19, 2017, 09:49:19 am
Are people selling for toty?  Notice Messi is down to 520k and Ronaldo 1.2m.   Dybala 700k and so on.   
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on April 19, 2017, 10:18:25 am
Dybala was 670k the other day
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on April 19, 2017, 03:02:50 pm
Nothing really other than a TOTS Casemiro has any interest for me.

If anything I might stock up on 84+ players as the SBC's will be plentiful
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on April 21, 2017, 09:42:50 am
Yeah, a couple of the YouTubers and streamers have said to sell up for TOTS I think so things have dropped.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on April 23, 2017, 08:05:43 pm
Have said a few times that I thought some games are predetermined. I now have changed my mind slightly to the thought that games are coded to be dramatic with set momentum swings to level the playing field. Not in all games but a fair percentage.  Regardless of skill or player teams it will happen and it takes only the best players to use all their talent to get through it
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on April 24, 2017, 12:48:24 pm
Oh my Lord ...

(http://i.imgur.com/96Xfrk0.png)

I pretty much hate both of them (FUT) anyway ... this is nuts!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on April 24, 2017, 12:50:53 pm
Phew! The requirements on Kante are a bit ... insane.

(http://i.imgur.com/RUFo1Kh.png)
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on April 24, 2017, 02:51:35 pm
Kiwi, that's just half for Kante

(https://s17.postimg.org/xe657mlpr/poty.jpg)

And Alli

(https://s27.postimg.org/v79atnzab/ypoty.jpg)

Wonder if their TOTS will be higher rated??
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on April 24, 2017, 04:40:01 pm
LOL ... didn't even think there'd be more!!!

Wow. Just wow.

Yeah - TOTS ... gotta wonder!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on April 24, 2017, 05:18:59 pm
Absolutely crazy cards. The cost is ridiculous! Funniest thing though was that EA messed up on the special Alli SBC. The first half an hour or so, they messed up the wording and you could use a none rare bronze player instead of a special version of Alli. The none rare Tottenham bronzes that could get full chem as a CAM were extinct until EA realised they had messed up. Was a nice free mega pack!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on April 24, 2017, 10:55:10 pm
https://streamable.com/ttbbc

Dribbling and long shot upgrade to a SIF 
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on April 26, 2017, 06:07:23 am
LOL ... didn't even think there'd be more!!!

Wow. Just wow.

Yeah - TOTS ... gotta wonder!

Looking like i'm gonna do that Kante have his OTW untradeable, and 91 SBC Higgy will bring down the around the world, have a few High rated untradeable IF's too.

Waiting for rewards on thursday to buy some needed players too, selling off the 1000+ gold rare contracts and will clear some more consumables should leave me with 2 mill after doing Kante for TOTS
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on April 26, 2017, 06:52:21 am
GL mate.

I had a look at the TOTS predictions and someone had a Kante on an 89 rating. The only nagging thought is the fact that last year, Mahrez had a TOTS card that was > his POTY card. But, all they simply did there was "give the next number out".

They've been heaps smarter about it this year, so I'd probably bet that this will be his highest rated card.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on April 26, 2017, 07:00:15 am
the fact i have an untradeable otw is playing a big factor as if i don't do it i won't be buying his TOTS
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on April 26, 2017, 08:47:14 am
I'd be amazed if Kante and alli's tots were not higher than the SBC. No way EA are going to pass up any chance of raking in more cash. There is no appeal in splashing out cash for points to try for a 89 rated Kante.

They are just draining every last ounce of peoples coins and cards before they have you buying more points for tots. They'll leave the premier league tots till last (end may/early june?) just to leave enough time between so they don't get too much backlash

The SBC Kante sure looks nice but I played a stacked team tonight with legends, toty's and high rated IF's and he subbed off lothar Matteus for poty Kante  :o and I mullered him 6-2 with my fitness team
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on April 26, 2017, 10:59:29 am
the fact i have an untradeable otw is playing a big factor as if i don't do it i won't be buying his TOTS

That is a big factor. Saves a quarter of the price immediately.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on April 26, 2017, 12:05:01 pm
(https://gyazo.com/5fab2ecdcc6eec6a48aac1a67d7637ca.png)

Cost me 350k in the end had to buy 3 IF's for the 11 IF team and 2 OTW cards used Bailly as got a untradeable NIF yesterday so will use him in my fitness team.

One game played with him dominated some lad but of course EA BS comes into it

(https://gyazo.com/25ffd5337e16142e5b60138940e053d9.png)

Kante was every where  :o

Did score the winning pen though  ;D
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on April 26, 2017, 12:10:15 pm
Good job ... well done! That's certainly looks like an impressive card!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on April 27, 2017, 11:39:05 am
(https://gyazo.com/4dc494cff1293b73b6a8e53c7a325118.png)

Done one untradeable as i'm at a wedding tomorrow and won't be back before they finish happy with that
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on April 27, 2017, 01:33:00 pm
Good one. Trumps my Reus :D.

Overall they've been pretty good. Got Kante and Firmino (2x 83's) in 1 pack. TOTKS Cabral in another.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on May 02, 2017, 09:37:14 am
That new Club Import on FutBin is cool for selling players in your club

(https://gyazo.com/24084ae776fa02c107b442587e5a49fc.png)
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on May 02, 2017, 10:43:41 am
Hmmm ... tried it, never got it to work. Will try again.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on May 02, 2017, 10:59:31 am
@BB ... did you get the prompt. Been re-reading the instructions, and once I click the button, don't get a prompt.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on May 02, 2017, 11:45:17 am
Yea Kiwi looks like this

(https://gyazo.com/31832d7e995bdc66ed09d44bc1076ea5.png)
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on May 02, 2017, 11:47:07 am
Once you do that should get this

(https://gyazo.com/60a69fefef0ba3139d0525d54c07d58a.png)
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on May 02, 2017, 12:03:59 pm
Thanks. Got it - finally.

Only worked when I clicked the actual extension, not the button on the page.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on May 02, 2017, 03:28:06 pm
Looks like a very useful tool, but I'm always wary of giving an unofficial source any details especially after being hacked a couple of years back
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on May 02, 2017, 03:46:16 pm
Looks like a very useful tool, but I'm always wary of giving an unofficial source any details especially after being hacked a couple of years back

Ah mate - totally agree with you. One of the reasons I didn't jump onto it immediately and kinda left it. BB's post confirmed that I could look at it again :P.

This one is different as it doesn't actually need your credentials. The initial connection is made via the web app, and then this extension reads from that open connection, only when you check your players.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on May 02, 2017, 05:34:55 pm
As long as there isn't any repeat of the UTT incident from a couple of years back!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on May 02, 2017, 05:46:12 pm
UTT ... blast from the past!!

Loved that site.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on May 03, 2017, 01:16:09 am
As long as there isn't any repeat of the UTT incident from a couple of years back!

You don't need your log in details just screen caps your club and gives you the details
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on May 09, 2017, 07:55:17 am
They really want to suck you in on this, hey ...
https://www.easports.com/fifa/ultimate-team/news/2017/fut-17-tots?utm_campaign=fifa17_hd_ww_ic_soco_twt_tots-tw-080517&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cid=31481&ts=1494280771734

Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on May 09, 2017, 08:11:58 am
Not sucked in at all starting on a Friday WL suicide, Now we know why from the next tourney NW you get 16 tries  ::)
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on May 09, 2017, 09:42:51 am
True - makes sense.

Possibly numbers down (# of people played, # of games finished) ... so, make it easier to get more people in.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on May 09, 2017, 02:53:17 pm
Might be 16 attempts but there is only one tourney, so in effect its the same. Might actually mean that less people qualify if they rattle through their attempts quickly.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on May 09, 2017, 06:20:43 pm
That tournament will be as bad as the weekend league as literally everyone will go for the TOTS player. Even if it's a bad player, remember the hell going for even Huth last year?
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on May 10, 2017, 06:47:00 am
Agreed TWS.

Went through the Voting for Bundes TOTY ... I haven't a clue who should be there, so voted for some of the players I've used in FUT. All I can think whilst doing this is that the majority of FUT-ers will simply be checking against pace and going 'him'.

Interesting to note that for the 2 CM slots, they had 2 sets of 3. Second set is Vidal vs Thiago vs 'someone who's never getting in' (can't remember).

After I did that, I thought to myself that's the 11 sorted, but realistically of the 33 players they presented, pretty much 22 of those should be in the TOTY ANY way. Can't think that if Thiago & Vidal are close in votes, EA will ignore the data and select someone else.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on May 14, 2017, 09:48:11 pm
... on a better note, decided to open packs - with points.

Firstly, we've saved up like 20 packs - over 550k worth (kid with his jumbo rare players x2 helps that value, but there are other decent ones). But, me being me saw that there were some 50k packs (global limit) as well as 30k ones (rare electrum players) ... FP time ;D.

Well, well ... for the 10 packs I bought (8 x 50k and 2 x 30k) ... went like this:
• TOTS Glushakov ... ok
• No great flares - but Martial and Kante ... another 15k
• MOTM Isco ... noice! 230k-ish
• Struck out
• (Electrum) IF Bittencourt and Javi Martinez (he's 8.5k now ::)).

Thought that went well so got another 4.6k ...
• 2 x 83-rated ... meh
• TOTS Bruma (and an 84-rated card) - 56k
• SIF Lemar - obviously shmattered by TOTS so he's only 30k now
• TOTS Sanson - 100k
• Nothing

All-in-all ... 500k+ before even checking for some others in there. Kinda surprised given the pack luck has been bad.



Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on May 15, 2017, 12:05:10 am
After months of opening bronze packs, although hardly any the past couple of months, I decided it was time to go for some silver blues! Now that the season is almost over in the big leagues, there'll be not much need for them in Marquee Matchups, so spent a couple of hours chucking them all through the bronze upgrade.
Ended up with 198 silver two player packs to open! Wasn't too hopeful of getting any blue cards but alternated opening a pack each with my little girl.
We managed to pack two silver TOTS cards, Angel and Vasin and also the Swedish IF twice in a row at one point! I opened the two TOTS packs and one of the IF's. She wasn't happy at not getting a blue!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on May 15, 2017, 06:09:52 am
LOL ... experiencing the disappointment of pack opening - from young.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on May 15, 2017, 08:34:54 am
Yeah, she's started playing Fifa. She's ok at the skill games but is not good at actual games yet. She was playing an 8 year old boy from down the road on Thursday. He was 4-0 up and sweating and dabbing. I played the second half and scored seven! That'll teach him  😆

She mainly plays Minecraft, Rocket League and Lego Star Wars though.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on May 15, 2017, 08:43:25 am
Yeah, she's started playing Fifa. She's ok at the skill games but is not good at actual games yet. She was playing an 8 year old boy from down the road on Thursday. He was 4-0 up and sweating and dabbing. I played the second half and scored seven! That'll teach him  😆

She mainly plays Minecraft, Rocket League and Lego Star Wars though.

Chuckled out loud on that one! :D
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: TWS001 on May 15, 2017, 08:46:23 am
Got to try and beat that out of him at a young age!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on May 22, 2017, 12:15:33 pm
Planned a team for the DKO ... with the max 1 special card. Meant I needed NIF Griezmann.

40k ... WTF! He was 46k for others so was chuffed with the snipe and a fresh one too (think the guy got the wrong price for FUTBIN). But 46k is ludicrously low! He was >100k 5/6 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: Kiwi on May 22, 2017, 12:17:32 pm
And just thinking about this ... we know that every year prices take a plummet - losing 60% of an 88-rated card is nothing new I guess.

I just wondered though ... did his card weight change? Did EA purposely do this in prep for TOTS and thereby ignite the GP purchases?

Would love to see the $$$ they pulled in this past week!
Title: Re: Fifa 17
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on May 22, 2017, 04:12:08 pm
At least you don't need a lot of coins to make a decent team. Been aiming to get Dybala. Also down a lot

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