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Title: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TWS001 on October 07, 2017, 10:20:04 am
So how's everyone doing?

It's horrible for me. Currently 4-6. Would snatch your hand off if you offered me Gold 3 right now!
Didn't think it possible, but it's even worse than last year. This new patch has brought back PTB again. So much more viable with the changes. Long shots worse, AI defenders stronger again, keepers able to turn out Butlandesque performances. Every team is pure pace and attempting to attack with just three players with everyone else defending. Through ball and 180 degree passes are still stupidly OP so they will normally score somehow.

The absolute worst thing is the amount of goals scored straight from kick off. I'm not talking about zigzagging straight through. It just seems that 80% of the time, the side kicking off can pass about and with the way that the AI of both teams act, create a clear scoring chance. This was glaringly obvious last year, but is just a joke this year, even worse.  At least one or two goals straight from kick off every game.

I had an unfortunate start as well. First game was in extra time and my Playstation just decides to eject the disc, causing the game to crash. The thing turned itself on in the middle of the night doing this as well. It's a well known problem due to an over sensitive eject button. On the advise of a Pro clubs team mate, i gave the console a massive clean and have raised it by propping it up with DVD boxes so that the eject button has a couple of centremetres of nothing between it and the table.

Hopefully tomorrow goes better, although it normally takes me a couple of months at least to be able to win more than I lose so as I say, would love to somehow make Gold 3.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 07, 2017, 11:32:24 am
Probably as frustrated as you mate! Think I was 2-3 last night when I turned it off in the next game. Was tilted pretty quickly though and decided I'd had enough.

Not sure how it'll go today ... trepidation ... ::)
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 07, 2017, 08:44:56 pm
Yep ... afternoon session - should have avoided it. Losing to 3 shots on target = 3 goals, of course.

Switched off the console at 3-7 and had some family time.

Night session finished - around 10:30 PM now) - 10-10. Goals galore - of course! Pjanic with 3 goals and 4 assists in the last 2 games (6-2 win and 5-1 RQ in 70th min); Mbappe with 5 goals & 3 assists. Games like that make it easier, but there are some that stresses one out - struggling to manage with the utter BS.

What's new, hey?!?!
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TWS001 on October 07, 2017, 11:28:29 pm
I unluckily lost my first game this morning, but won the next three, every one of them against the front three of Izquierdo - Musa - Walcott. All easy games against three equally clueless opponents. That puts me 7-7. Will see how it continues this evening.......
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TWS001 on October 08, 2017, 05:15:01 am
Played two more this afternoon and have moved on to five straight wins, putting me at 9-7.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 08, 2017, 07:12:10 pm
Good job.

Me - Got to 14 wins from 24 - the kid winning the last 2. Then quit 6 games in a row throughout the morning/afternoon. Yep - 6. Could.Not. Be. Arsed.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 08, 2017, 07:16:02 pm
Make that 7.

The player switching and defenders committing to a specific path when the opponent is attacking, is simply nuts. This means that pure pace = victory now. I'm not sure why your player is full on committed to e.g. a bouncing ball which you just know he's not going to have a snowball's hope in hell of getting.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 08, 2017, 07:17:15 pm
Great ... next game is Martial - Son - Sterling front line ...
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TWS001 on October 08, 2017, 09:59:58 pm
It's been pretty dreadful stuff. I'm at 16-16 so should make Gold 3 but the state of the games of so bad.

All games are basically the same. Opponent just first time passes all the way forwards to his front three and then through ball. Doesn't matter where they're facing in relation to the pass. Any trash player can play a ball like that perfectly yet a player with 90 short passing messes up a 5 yard pass unpressured in a natural direction more often. Eventually three tackles in a row will bounce straight back to them somehow. Their keeper (normally Begovic) will make insane saves and you'll end up losing despite having the vast majority of play and four times more shots.

You'll battle to equalise and then the absolute shambolic mechanics after kick off will gift them a goal when they can pass around you unresponsive players. God forbid you make a tackle, because it'll put them in an even stronger position to score.

Refereeing has reached silly levels. Four times I've mistimed tackles in the box and not given away the most blatant penalty ever. You can get absolutely smashed but they give nothing. It's just madness. I'm picking up way less cards than last year because they call absolutely nothing at times.

The game is just inane mindless bullshit most of the time. If you get an opponent trying to play then as ever, it is very good, but the way the game allows people to play with little penalty and maximum reward is an utter joke. I don't see why people that play the same old nonsense need to have coins for an Icon Ronaldo or Ronaldinho or Henry or whatever. All they need is Izquierdo, Andre Gray and some other crap, and low driven it across the keeper after continuous spamming of through balls. Literally makes no difference at all.

I suppose the best way is just to try and play your game and it will probably become easier to stop over time. But when they play a hopeful, complete hit and hope, weak foot through ball from their CB and you are controlling the covering defender, but he refuses to move in any direction except slowly backwards as the ball rolls about 1 foot either side of him, and straight to an onrushing Musa to score and it just happens to be the 90th minute then I don't even know how EA get away with this year after year.

As ever it will be a constant battle to over come BS for the entire year, but with the boosts IF's are already getting, then by May, god knows how many random players will have cards that basically have 99 in every stat.

The game on release had promise, but a lot of stupid stuff that needed fixing. Now we just have a slight tweak on Fifa 17 and an equal, if not more, helping of BS. Same thing happens every year, only this year they've done it in record time.

Will be back tonight to somehow grind out two wins from 8 remaining games.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 09, 2017, 06:38:11 am
"Any trash player can play a ball like that perfectly"
"Eventually three tackles in a row will bounce straight back to them"
"keeper will make insane saves"

... stopped quoting as I felt like the rest was like reading a recap of my WL story.

It's just crazy that these .... complete skill-less, dull, exploiting (or cheating - whatever), no doubt pimple-faced little morons ... can compete. For EA to implement such a competitive game mode - on a world stage for plenty $$$ - but yet allow the dimwitted individuals to have a better chance of winning due to exploitation ... that's what I cannot grasp and tilts me no end.

But ... the last quote is just so laughable ... "Will be back tonight". :D Oh well!
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on October 09, 2017, 09:03:37 am
Jesus had thought about giving the WLQ a go this week but **** reading these makes me think why bother have played all of 2 games online and quit both, the game is an utter mess. thank god for SB's cause i would be returning the game otherwise.

Really enjoying it TBH have the 2 bog standard teams and am finishing E2/E3 with no issues, true the rewards are not as good but they are rewards all the same. Even been playing on a 2nd account (only to get transfer access as the lad running that BOT is building a new want to trial it)  which i have been using a liga NOS discard team play 12 games rotating and sell up and buy back got to G1 with 8 to play can't be arsed to do anymore now.

will start again tomorrow with a 3rd account stopping the 2nd as TF access achieved.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TWS001 on October 09, 2017, 10:53:38 am
Got to Gold 3 with 5 games to spare, but the motivation to play it any more was non existent. The state of the game now is probably the most broken they've ever allowed it to become. Well, maybe that's a bit unfair. They have a proper offline mode, sbc's updating regularly (although I'm being very selective over these at the moment. A lot of them are not worth the value of the players needed and with no rewards yet, my club is not flush with players yet), it's online gameplay where the problems are. We've had some awful stuff before such as the KSI kick off that we learnt to deal with for the most part, but this is different.
Literally everything that was bad last year is magnified, but now there through balls are just a joke. Probably over 80% of my games were spent dealing with the exact form of attack literally all game. And since the patch, the AI defending is back so park the bus is back also. There's been games where the opponents have a 50 yard gap between there attack and the other 8 players. When you try to play football against it, your midfield naturally push up, so its just a big no mans land in the middle of the pitch. You lose the ball, and it's an instant driven pass forward and one two through ball. The game has just turned into a complete joke.

Once games start being released in the run up to Christmas like CoD, I can see a lot of people leaving this unless they do something. This is going to be the year that they totally mess it up without doubt.

Last year, I believe that one person got 40-0 over both consoles. This year, there were 25 on PS4 hours ago. Apparently if you bring up the dashboard and go into a party, it disconnects the game without penalty. Works on both consoles. State of this game!
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 09, 2017, 12:28:29 pm
Yeah BB ... not the best of times.

I must get my head into the offline Squad Battles actually! Did a few and could see that it (AI) wasn't as bad as last year/previous editions.

... and Damn! Did not even know there was a glitch already. Just so typical though - not that EA 'allows' it, but that YT'ers are onto crap like this so easily. And yeah, blame EA too for simply allowing 180 deg driven passes/ through balls like that.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on October 09, 2017, 04:34:26 pm
Well gents.  My initial enjoyment of the game came to a shuddering halt with the advent of weekend league

Pre patch, great.  Shrug off the EA sponsored bull$hit and keep moving on.  Post patch, or as I like to call it, the 'EA script patch for those who are crap at the game so we'll give them a fighting chance patch' total revert back to FIFA 17. Why EA, why??

Anyways, weekend league.  Started off all positive and excited.  4-1 start.  Not bad, could this be the breakout year? Nah.  Quickly through the surge of brown stuff, back to level par (5-5).  Sick as F###

This became 7-10. Vomit inducing some of the absolute garbage of KO glitch, 45th + 10min goals and likewise 90th min.  It amazes me that no one at EA who plays this can not see the massive chunk of time that gets added onto the ends of halves and address it.

Back to my Alex Hunter..  I preceded, although playing well, to lose the next 9 on the spin.  Quite how my controller, Console or TV survived that run I'll never know.  Good job the kids were out too.  Surprised the neighbours didn't call the police.  the amount of colourful language being used at increasing volume throughout yesterday afternoon  ;D

Actually then won a couple after a bit of a break.  (9-19). Worst record ever in champs. 12 games to go.  After another break for food, came back to finish this nightmare.  Lost (9-20).  Just about crying at this point.  Put the kids to bed and sat in the chair dumbfounded.  Did a few gold UG sbc's and a few SQB to feel whats its like to win again.

Prior to starting champs, I had a positive record by about 20 or so.  Not really a record watcher, but it was nice to have something which after a poor start last year I didn't think id have again.  Slowly watching this dwindle away almost sucked the life out of me.  Changed from my tried and trusted 4312 and went 4321, a formation I just couldn't make work previously.  My front 3 off chem which just irritates me.  Messed on with custom tactics (which I think is purely a placebo) and took out my 2 defensive midfielders for more attack minded ones with the 'f### it' attitude......

Won the next 8 in a row (17-20)  :o Game felt fluid. Players were pressing to get the ball back.  Constant never say die attitude.  Even playing what I would call good players, I was getting the rub of the green in all games.  Pen shootouts, last min, whatever BS had happened to me prior was now going for me.  I felt genuinely sorry for those who I was playing.  Then lost 1 in an epic proper football game.  No EA BS, just good football. Messaged the guy thanking him for the best game this weekend (17-21).

Next up a solid Bundes team with messers Werner, Bellerabi and OTW Yarmalenko up top.  down 2-1 deep in the 80+ min.  Took off Jesus for Ibra, all out attack.  Scramble one home in the 89th from a corner.  We share one each in ET and are down to pens.

I miss one of the first 5, he has his final kick to win.  Saves.  This happens a couple times more in sudden death.  We get to go round again, and finally I win 10-9.... the scenes  :o :o :o The impossible magic 18.

Great 'story'. And there in lies the problem for us FUT mortals.  Outside of the pros, the game feels like a total movie script, sucking you in, spitting you out with the grand finale of the redemption or the hero falling on his sword bittersweet ending.

Mad, mad game.....  On to next week  :P
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 10, 2017, 05:45:27 am
LOL Simmo ... good cry & a chuckle, mate!

Fortunately you had a fairy tale ending ... not so on my side. After my last quit on Sunday night, I had to win 2 from 2.

First up was a familiar guy that seems to grind out wins against me - all the time. Was kinda chuffed I ran out 5-3 winners. Last game - another tough one - ping pong stuff and it's 4-3 to me. Thinking this could be it ... 90th minute, my CB's clearance is woeful and straight to his attacker - goal. Concede in ET to a CB header - not headed away, but a glancing, pathetic little dink that drops to his striker.

So, yep ... totally agree that this is indeed a movie script. For me it was ... a "nervous start working out the drama" (3-7), "getting back on track" (11-5), and then the "horror story finale" (3-11).

Absolute laughable stuff!
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TWS001 on October 10, 2017, 07:55:53 am
I had the same. Was 4-7, then won 6 in a row, ended up losing a load, then win two or three in a row to get to 18.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 11, 2017, 06:35:51 am
Ok ... Daily Tournament ...

Decided to build 2 nondescript teams - a full Calcio A and a full La Liga side. Strikers for were Belotti and Icardi, and Aduriz with Gameiro in the other. Tried to use non of the OP, expensive players I have.

Pretty horrible!

Could not get anything going. Although, the one standout is Belotti ... his WF ... oh my freakin' word!!! It's one of those where I actually force him to take shots on his left. Crazy stuff.

After 3 quits in a row (1st round, 1st round, 2nd round), I switched to the OP team with Neymar/Mbappe up top. Won in at a canter ... too easy. THAT PACE :o :o! So sad that it dictates this game.

Did end up continuing in Seasons with the Calc A/La Liga teams and they did get better. So,  maybe it was my daftness trying new teams out in the DKT!
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 12, 2017, 09:08:30 am
Not too well today (flu from one of the kids). Tired of lying down so sitting here at the PC, streaming the Xbox and thought I'd watch some "CHAMPIONS CHANNEL" ... or Channel of Champions ... or whatever-the-heck-they-call-it.

Saw Huge Gorilla got his 40 wins - so watched a game of his vs an opponent that got 37 wins.

This was Gorilla's team:
(https://i.imgur.com/CZ2kOGC.jpg)

Went to FUTBIN ... a cool 19.6M on Xbox (15.8M on PS) ... and just for laughs - 30.7M on PC  :o :o :o!

During the match he also subbed on a 91 Ronaldinho - another 3.9M / 3M / 7M.

Freakin' crazy team that ... 1 week into FUT. I know he's a pro, but how boring must it be to have that team already - nothing to really look forward to. Guess it's the "life of a pro", hey.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on October 12, 2017, 09:21:16 pm
Crazy team but moreover a crazy amount of coins.

I am almost at a level with coins that I can buy Van Basten. Hero! Gullit is so expensive....

Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G930F met Tapatalk

Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: otutsarTR on October 12, 2017, 10:08:58 pm
Jesus had thought about giving the WLQ a go this week but **** reading these makes me think why bother have played all of 2 games online and quit both, the game is an utter mess. thank god for SB's cause i would be returning the game otherwise.

Really enjoying it TBH have the 2 bog standard teams and am finishing E2/E3 with no issues, true the rewards are not as good but they are rewards all the same. Even been playing on a 2nd account (only to get transfer access as the lad running that BOT is building a new want to trial it)  which i have been using a liga NOS discard team play 12 games rotating and sell up and buy back got to G1 with 8 to play can't be arsed to do anymore now.

will start again tomorrow with a 3rd account stopping the 2nd as TF access achieved.


how is everyone ? what actually is the "squad battles" ? an offline mode of WL? again 40 during a given span of time?
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TWS001 on October 12, 2017, 10:40:10 pm
Been experimenting a bit the past couple of days. Have built a 433(2) team to get players the 10 games they need for loyalty in the 7 leagues, 9 nations SBC. Have Giroud up front and it's been good. Lost the first game I played with it 4-0. I completely outplayed the guy but everything went his way. I had 15 shots to his 5 but Begovic was saving everything. When it happens in weekend league its as frustrating as hell, but in the dkt when already qualified? Oh well!
Yesterday I played a game in Divisions with my IF Locadia team and won 2-0. Switched straight away to the dkt with the Giroud team and won 3-1 against exactly the same person! Luckily he tried to play football so it was nice. Won a couple more games that I played and will play a few more tonight, see what the rewards from last weekend bring and decide what to go with for the weekend.
The difference between playing in the week and weekend is huge though. The games I've played this week have all been ok, good fun and have enjoyed experimenting with Giroud at striker. I know that come the weekend, it'll be all 4321 or 41212(2), driven passes to the forwards straight away and one, two, sprint. All game long. Dodgy bounces and dreadful football all the way.

Have picked up a load more of the cheap IF's such as Ginter, Maivon and a couple of others and have around 20 already. IF Danilo Pereira is already three times what I paid for him, so this usual coin earning method while using them in my teams is looking like its working great again. Bronze packs are also doing very well. Have made loads from Marquee Matchups and the other random SBC's that have required certain nationalities. Just because they are worth 200 coins when I pack them doesn't mean they won't be worth 6k or more two weeks later! (Australian wingers, Melbourne players).
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on October 13, 2017, 01:27:43 am
Jesus had thought about giving the WLQ a go this week but **** reading these makes me think why bother have played all of 2 games online and quit both, the game is an utter mess. thank god for SB's cause i would be returning the game otherwise.

Really enjoying it TBH have the 2 bog standard teams and am finishing E2/E3 with no issues, true the rewards are not as good but they are rewards all the same. Even been playing on a 2nd account (only to get transfer access as the lad running that BOT is building a new want to trial it)  which i have been using a liga NOS discard team play 12 games rotating and sell up and buy back got to G1 with 8 to play can't be arsed to do anymore now.

will start again tomorrow with a 3rd account stopping the 2nd as TF access achieved.


how is everyone ? what actually is the "squad battles" ? an offline mode of WL? again 40 during a given span of time?

Howdy Otu, yea but its 4 games a day Monday to Friday updates at 1 am and 12 on Saturday and Sunday, up to you what difficulty you play but the higher you play the more points you get.

Runs from Monday to Sunday i have got E3/2 the last few weeks playing on pro and a few on legendary, rewards have been poor though. Enjoying it as less BS and the difficulty has been adjusted compared to previous years and is much more enjoyable.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TWS001 on October 13, 2017, 01:45:41 am
Probably should put this in the videos section but it just crashes if I load up that thread.

Been using the new charged up standing tackle a lot since the start of last weekend. It can really stop zigzag runners dead in their tracks. You can really dominate small, weak (quick) attackers. Use it here, totally annihilate the attacker, but a foul on this occasion surely? Not a huge amount of people seem to use it, but I think when learnt properly, will be a powerful defending tool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qsxIrhfQ84
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TWS001 on October 13, 2017, 05:23:26 am
Gold 3 rewards!
First pack a purple flash! Though that meant Messi, Sigurdsson or Salah. No, some Costa Rican defender with crazy physical stats. Second pack, Matic and a few other decent players. Third pack, walkout, Ribery! Plus an Italian IF goalkeeper and Hazard! Well the brother anyway.

Easily made back over 100k from this, maybe 150k with all the other decent sellable stuff I pulled.

But with these non expiring Icon SBCs, god knows how the market will go now.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 13, 2017, 08:42:18 am
Good job mate! Insigne was my best one.

And yeah ... market is going a bit nuts. IF Danilo Pereira - only 2 on the market now. 50k max I think. Extinct players are Pepe (ofc!) on 10k and Pique ... 30k. Damn!

Edit ... seems like there are a lot more IF Pereira's ... must have been my search options.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on October 13, 2017, 09:39:49 am
Good job mate! Insigne was my best one.

And yeah ... market is going a bit nuts. IF Danilo Pereira - only 2 on the market now. 50k max I think. Extinct players are Pepe (ofc!) on 10k and Pique ... 30k. Damn!

Edit ... seems like there are a lot more IF Pereira's ... must have been my search options.

Deffo plenty kiwi been lurking in the IF trading guide over yonder, has worked out well so far, bought a good few IF's could sell at double at the moment but will be rarer as people discard into the SBC's and can make more, bought 2 fellaini's other day at 56k listed both at 89k one was bought so bought 2 more all 3 listed at 90k now, have over 1 mill worth in IF's in my TP
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on October 13, 2017, 09:42:40 am
also had been picking up 84's at 1700 - 2800 selling at inflated prices of 6 - 8k
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 13, 2017, 10:26:16 am
Yeah, 4 hours-odd on and the investors are controlling things - no Pepe/Miranda/Pique/J. Martinez cards on the market.

Really contemplating the Rui Costa one. Have plenty IF's so can possibly do it for <400k prior to pack opening. Might just do his loan card and see if 20 games is enough to convince me. Don't know what future Icon SBC's they'll release though.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: beuk on October 13, 2017, 12:23:04 pm
really skinned at the moment....everything was going great with the overmars challenge, first 5 teams ready without a problem and/or breaking the bank, so i went for a drink and a bite, open the app later on and well damn... >:( everything inflated. currently waiting for 2 pepe's (or really any other (if availlable) 86+ defender) to complete team 6 and 7 and only 100k left, My packluck didn't help either, eto'o as best pull in those 5 first packs...
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: otutsarTR on October 13, 2017, 05:52:42 pm
Jesus had thought about giving the WLQ a go this week but **** reading these makes me think why bother have played all of 2 games online and quit both, the game is an utter mess. thank god for SB's cause i would be returning the game otherwise.

Really enjoying it TBH have the 2 bog standard teams and am finishing E2/E3 with no issues, true the rewards are not as good but they are rewards all the same. Even been playing on a 2nd account (only to get transfer access as the lad running that BOT is building a new want to trial it)  which i have been using a liga NOS discard team play 12 games rotating and sell up and buy back got to G1 with 8 to play can't be arsed to do anymore now.

will start again tomorrow with a 3rd account stopping the 2nd as TF access achieved.


how is everyone ? what actually is the "squad battles" ? an offline mode of WL? again 40 during a given span of time?

Howdy Otu, yea but its 4 games a day Monday to Friday updates at 1 am and 12 on Saturday and Sunday, up to you what difficulty you play but the higher you play the more points you get.

Runs from Monday to Sunday i have got E3/2 the last few weeks playing on pro and a few on legendary, rewards have been poor though. Enjoying it as less BS and the difficulty has been adjusted compared to previous years and is much more enjoyable.


thanks mate ...
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: otutsarTR on October 13, 2017, 05:56:25 pm
well had a few online games, and offline with our little draft league ... personally this game is one of the worst EA has released, after the patch, all our games are 5.5 6.5 5.4 what is this? we will go tie break instead of penalties. seriously the guided missile passing, autotackling which came back after the patch etc is killing it. dont know how this will end.


icon sbcs, are no expiry so eventually rates etc must come down,as people will keep on opening packs.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TWS001 on October 13, 2017, 07:20:20 pm
There are a lot of problems with the game there is no doubt. The pattern is that during the week if you play just to have fun, winning irrelevant, you tend to actually enjoy it, and the opponents don't tend to be ones that abuse everything constantly. Sure you get some, but when they are sporadic, it's tolerable.
The problem is weekend league. Almost every opponent knows the game well, is trying hard to win, and the games tend to be hideous. Just resembling some sort of hyper pinball machine. Once again, there is too much is the game that works too well and really shouldn't.

Last night I was thinking about not using my Locadia team and going with something involving my rewards, but played a game to try and get Locadia the one goal he needed to get to 50. He scored 5! Going to keep that team for a bit longer.
My other team has four IF's and Mario Gomez upfront. Could have picked up IF Wagner to make it five informs but will go with what I have.

Barely slept all night, woke up in a pool of sweat and with an upset stomach so no work for me today. Wonder what else I can do?
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: otutsarTR on October 13, 2017, 07:28:58 pm
might be true, during the week part i mean - hwr even in seasons, its the same bs, i do play seasons, for warm up, for our draft league.
and its the same, fastest h2h to date, and ping pong everywhere.


the prime icons apparently are in packs as well, so hopefully market will get to balance in the long run.


the weekend league, and its rewards weekly and monthly , quite a good tool for sbcs,  therefore its the most broken mode ever, due to people wanting to win at all cost.


and as a last note, wishing you well tws, hope you recover soon ...
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 13, 2017, 07:46:33 pm
It's the defending that has changed. As a result scores in games is exaggerated. The kamikaze defending which in previous iterations - with manual defending - was effective (for me at least). Now, you cannot defend like that and a number of people are being caught out. I've had a few games where 10 goals where scored in the first 35 minutes. Insane stuff.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 13, 2017, 07:48:48 pm
Great start so far ... 0-3. Loving it ::)

Is Jesus in EVERY team? As well as Sane????
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 13, 2017, 08:04:45 pm
Won the next game 4-0. Of course that had to happen - sucks me in again.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 13, 2017, 08:07:28 pm
Next game ... Son & Sane as ST's ... great. Nope, Jesus is the CAM. LOL ::)

Edit ... Quit at 2-2 in that one - I have 2 red cards in the first 35 min. Way too tilted to play this fu%ked-up bullshit.

1-4 ... it can still get worse I suppose.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 13, 2017, 08:18:54 pm
Do like IF Locadia TWS. He's my go-to sub in the main team.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: otutsarTR on October 13, 2017, 10:21:33 pm
i also packed him and he is really good.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TWS001 on October 14, 2017, 12:02:50 am
Locadia's stats are pretty unique. Has everything important, although people miss out because they can't link him or ignore him because of 2* skills.
I've started off ok. Currently 6-4 after 10 games. Hit eight goals in the first match, and came from 2-0 down at halftime to win 6-2 against some sort of full pace team.
Defending wise, I kind of change depending on where the ball is and the situation. The runs I normally let them run into me, with a charged tackle waiting to unleash. And because the vast majority of the time defenders are much stronger than the quick forwards, you dominate them. In the opponents half I'm way more aggressive in trying to get the ball than ever before. It's all still a work in progress though. Even since the patch, defending is very different than last year.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: otutsarTR on October 14, 2017, 12:13:01 am
Locadia's stats are pretty unique. Has everything important, although people miss out because they can't link him or ignore him because of 2* skills.
I've started off ok. Currently 6-4 after 10 games. Hit eight goals in the first match, and came from 2-0 down at halftime to win 6-2 against some sort of full pace team.
Defending wise, I kind of change depending on where the ball is and the situation. The runs I normally let them run into me, with a charged tackle waiting to unleash. And because the vast majority of the time defenders are much stronger than the quick forwards, you dominate them. In the opponents half I'm way more aggressive in trying to get the ball than ever before. It's all still a work in progress though. Even since the patch, defending is very different than last year.


how is second man press ? would it help on the opponents half ?
[size=78%]the potential problem here as i see it, the ping pong passing, eventough you would try to close the passing lanes, opponent can pass their way out.[/size]
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TWS001 on October 14, 2017, 01:13:59 am
I hardly ever use it. Maybe once today for about 2-3 seconds so far in eleven games. It's all about the charged up standing tackle for me. With a strong defender to opponents 99% of the time, weaker striker gets destroyed. Only see Ibra walk through them so far which is how things should be. Have enjoyed the zig zag runners getting frustrated and sliding about so far today.
I'm not a great defender by any means but have had success getting tight on opponents speedy forwards and simply destroying them with a charged up tackle. With a good strong defender, the radius is big and the forward just gets eased of the ball or completely destroyed. Extremely rare to get even a booking from mistiming one, a lot of the time the refs don't even do anything.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 14, 2017, 08:23:44 am
Raining here this morning. All plans put on hold means I can (for the time being) continue with the wonders of WL.

1-8 now after quitting whilst 1-0 up against a pauser/changer, and of course another red card.

I'm loving this ...
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TWS001 on October 14, 2017, 09:06:04 am
Pretty standard stuff. Went from 8-4 to 8-10 this evening. My keepers didn't save a shot in 4 games ffs. All but one of those games I had more shots, one of them 19 to 4 in my favour. Lost that 3-2. So many games decided by the keepers. In that one his keeper made at least three point blank wonder saves, whilst mine just lets in anything.
Luckily managed to get two wins to end and am 10-10. The new thing this week seems to be the battle every team has to get into position for the sweet spot long shots. The 25 yard long shot across the keeper or the edge of box finesse shots from the central area on the edge of the box. Much less of the one two through ball spam. They all seem to want to try and hit long shots from the exact same spot every game.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 14, 2017, 09:20:51 am
Good job ... I'm not too good at the moment. I can FEEL the lack of skill in an opponent ... but yet it's a full-on struggle.

Yep - all the psycho mumbo-jumbo getting to me.

FYI - sign that I am tilted and "almost controlled":
(https://i.imgur.com/bvIEQK7.jpg)
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TWS001 on October 15, 2017, 03:54:19 am
I know exactly what you mean. Opponents you are totally outplaying, but you can only score two goals at most, and after his keeper makes miracle saves and defenders crazy last ditch blocks, he gets two goals completely out of nowhere after 70 minutes or so!

Just one game for me so far today, and it was the Mario Gomez show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYubeIV4kBs
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 15, 2017, 11:07:27 am
Indeed. Good one with Mario Gomez - obvious comment incoming ... "have NEVER seen HIM in WL" ;D

Have won the first 2 games of the morning. Only need 10 wins from 16 games ... to get to 18. LOL.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 15, 2017, 03:40:12 pm
After that - 2 losses - par for the course.

Kid had a game and a half - lost both those and was too tilted to play again. We did go out with family, so that certainly "helped" not having to play further.

Afternoon session ... weird one. Started at 8 wins with something like 13 games left. I quit one (another red card!) but was 2-0 up and concede 3 in the space of 10 min :o :o. Then ...
Convincing win 3 or 4 nil.
1-0 up (15th min or something) after his POTM Mane has missed (ballooned) an absolute sitter, but then gets a penalty. Quits or, gets disconnected.
1-2 down - 30th-odd min - another opponent disconnect. Ok ... no loss, will take that.
2-0 up (me 2 shots on goal, him - about 10!) after 30-ish minutes. Not sure if it's a disconnect or if he was just tilted.

So, 11 wins now with 9 to play.

Best weekend league EVER!. Not. ::)
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TWS001 on October 15, 2017, 09:13:38 pm
What an absolute joke it was last night. Moved on to 12-10 so was looking good to auto qualify. Then lost 8 games in a row! Almost everyone I was ahead. Almost every one I had double to shots of the opponents. It was just stupid. When I managed to lose 5-4 despite having 23 shots to my opponents 6, I knew that wouldn't get 18 wins. Some of the stuff going on was so contrived. Then when I needed four wins from six games, I start winning, passes start going where I want them. But of course some utter nonsense occurs and after Begovic makes six point blank saves, your defender is unable to control the simplest ball and you concede when your keeper get nutmegged.
The amount of two goal leads I lost, mainly involving 90th minute goals, or goals straight from kick off when the opponent can pass around and your entire team acts like a bunch of idiots is simply crazy.

Ended up 17-23. Not one single game went to a penalty shoot out in the 40. It almost feels like there's something going on in the game to prevent it. Just a complete mess of a game at the moment.
It almost feels like there's times when you concede and there's not a damn thing you can do to stop it.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 16, 2017, 06:03:51 am
Damn mate. That's bad! Unlucky on only being 1 short - but still, that just sucks.

Finished on 13 wins myself ... this was a definitely the worst there was.

One aspect that stood out for me, that I am literally speechless on, is passing. As you say, some games you have 100% pass accuracy, even though you don't deserve it. Others, you're think WTF! as a simple 10-yard basic pass balloons out wide where you lose the ball in a bad spot - either concede, or corner, and then concede.

And, this is beyond me having a mental breakdown. I wish I could have the full replay - with that training crap on - supposedly showing where I am aiming my passes.

On another note - spent the remainder of the evening catching up on Squad Battles games. Kinda enjoyable as at least that takes out the "delinquent cnut" aspect.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on October 16, 2017, 09:16:58 am

On another note - spent the remainder of the evening catching up on Squad Battles games. Kinda enjoyable as at least that takes out the "delinquent cnut" aspect.

and here's the answer to why i like it so much.

Still find yourself shouting "have it you cnut" when you score a 90th min winner though  :D
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TWS001 on October 16, 2017, 10:14:55 am
Was playing pro clubs earlier and everyone of us had a solid start on weekend league and colllapsed in the second half of games. They're all better players than me and the general opinion was that they've tweaked the weekend league matchmaking this year. In FIFA 17, it was often incredibly easy in the back end of your fixtures, especially on a Sunday more often than not, but we all thought that maybe they changed things.
Also a discussion about formations and tactics led me to try the 352 after the pro clubs session. We've had talk about it in our chat the past couple of weeks, and one guy who was top ten on the those futhead leaderboards in FIFA 15, but has barely played since has started again this year. On the day of release, he was using 352 and raving about it. Had beaten Twitch streamers and Castro backed out against him so far and is possibly top 100 again whilst using it this year.

Since then have also seen rumblings on the forums about 352 and in our discussion, a couple of others have tried it and it works well if done right so chucked together a team from the Premier League using what I had in my club already. Might as well make use of the likes of Matic, Wanyama, Sanchez, Sakho and Matip, all of whom came out of rewards from last weekend.

The team ended up:

Giroud - Lacazette (loan)
Cazorla
Arnautovic - Phillips
Matic - Wanyama
Sanchez - Sakho - Matip
Fabianski

Won my first game 2-0 with both goals from Giroud, and the second game 4-0 with three for Giroud and the other by Lacazette. It felt very solid even though the opponents were playing 433(4) in the first and 41212(1) in the second. Ok, it was division 8, but the opponents both knew what they were doing, and the first one had 88 Ferdinand. There is definitely something in using this formation. It felt excellent in attack. Will stick with using this for a bit and see what happens. Also managed to maul the AI in squad battles on legendary 6-1 so attacking wise it could be very good. The typical crap style of a weekend league opponent will be the test. Wanyama and Matic were like a wall and were always available to receive the ball whilst attacking. Maybe Arnautovic and Phillips aren't ideal but I'm as ever every year, determined to find a way to at least compete with the typical cheap tactics. Last year I didn't even make the weekend league until the end of November, so plenty of time to try and figure stuff out.
The big man, little man combo worked well. Giroud holding it up and burying a few crosses shows promise for my liking of target men. Santi Cazorla also seems very good this year.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 16, 2017, 10:54:51 am
and here's the answer to why i like it so much.
Still find yourself shouting "have it you cnut" when you score a 90th min winner though  :D
LOL ... indeed - :D. I wish there were more than 4 games/day though! It's not enough to replace WL completely. If they had Seasons on dedicated servers, I could easily give up the Weekend League altogether.

Still having issues with passing, must be honest. I have been pausing, to see if there's something I'm doing wrong. Honestly, I think that some of the auto passing simply hooks onto the player that I am not intending to pass to. Weird.

@TWS ... 352, sounds very interesting! One thing I do seem to struggle with, is the Neymar/Mbappe combo. You've mentioned it previously that bumping off small strikers is just too OP now. For a bunch of the last 20-odd games, I did switch to the Calc A team, with Belotti/IF El Sha up front ... found it more effective actually.

Oh ... and Belotti ... damn, that left foot is amazing. 28 gls in 32 games with 11 assists. There is a fair number in there that I've quit, but I'm not really cared about the actual. The quality of his strikes though ... :o :o.

On the one point re: quality of opponent - sure, I wouldn't be surprised if that has changed. But, I do still think there are a number of opponents where they get the rub of the green and no matter what, you're going to lose that game. That is what I despise most - EA effectively deciding things.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 16, 2017, 07:46:05 pm
Built 2x 352 teams quick - one with Neymar-Firmino upfront, Pizzi-IF D.Pereira-Carvalho as the midfield triangle and a Bundes backline. Other was simply a Serie A team with Belotti-IF El Sha and Pjanic at CAM.

Walked 3 games in Seasons - D6 if I remember correctly. Thankfully connections were great - added bonus.

Must say that the formation does feel incredibly solid! 2 of the games were against 433-4 and never felt at risk. The last game was also against someone I normally struggle against, easy 3-1 victory and way more opportunities than him.

Need to find/buy some decent players - specifically the defence. It's not easy building hybrids with this formation unless you get some OP CB's. For me it's having the right GK and right now the likes of De Gea, Neuer, Courtios are just way too dear.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: gladiatorrrrrr on October 16, 2017, 07:47:23 pm
352, those were the days!

Theme for this week; rebuild all teams in 352 and play for a week to find out. Good call TWS!

Good to hear that it works KIWI. I stick to my current players + what I have in the club
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on October 16, 2017, 10:04:15 pm
Did try it Vs the CPU in squad battles and got over run at times at the back.

Kiwi Pizzi is class, good passing and solid shot, TWS Cazorla & Mata too are really excelling for me as CAM seem to me that the slower more cultured players are good this year
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 17, 2017, 04:20:06 am
Yeah - will be interesting to see if 352 is OP in the WL or not. Not sure if I'll get there this weekend though :D.

Mata ... ooh, what a card this year!! Love him!
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: UltimateSimmov2 on October 17, 2017, 09:23:23 am
16 wins gents, 16 effin' wins

was 12 wins with 14 games to go. Playing ok.  Probably got too complacent .... maybe

The amount of times in the last 10 or so games I conceded a 90th odd min goal from a damn rebound was unreal.  Shafted hard by EA

Back to Q school, although I don't think i'll make it
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TWS001 on October 17, 2017, 09:58:28 am
Sounds like we all got shafted by Futchamps this weekend. I think the general feeling seems to be that they've tweaked matchmaking so that after an initial period of games, you only play similar projected finish standard of players. No more easy Sundays! Just about everyone I know did much worse in their second half of games then their first.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TWS001 on October 18, 2017, 07:51:59 am
352 experiment is going very well. Have something like 13 wins out of 15, and the two defeats I out changed the opponent comfortably and could easily have won.
Just won the tournament to make it back into Weekend League. Won 3-2 in the first round with an 120th minute winner. I had 32 shots, the opponent 2. That game almost gave me heart failure! After that, 7-1, 6-5 and 6-2 wins won it. Mario Gomez netting me 5 goals in the final. Could have been more as I started messing about and was trying to chip the keeper! Picked up IF Zuber and played him at LM. Pretty much a perfect player for the position in 352.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 18, 2017, 08:02:46 am
Good job. Well done.

Going well this side too with it. Have 2 losses as well - directly after I said to the kid that I'm unbeaten with it :P.

Good shout on Zuber - haven't got a Bundes side set up as yet - will get him.

Edit ... Love this!
(https://i.imgur.com/ivLc18O.jpg)
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on October 18, 2017, 08:42:31 am

Good shout on Zuber - haven't got a Bundes side set up as yet - will get him.



I have about 10 of him Kiwi is you need one  ;)
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 18, 2017, 08:49:02 am
Anyone see the City - Napoli game. I was streaming it on the side and City played some serious keep-ball in the last 10-ish minutes.

Hilarious that Mendy tweets this out:
(https://i.imgur.com/sAnmMqu.jpg)
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 18, 2017, 08:50:28 am
Good shout on Zuber - haven't got a Bundes side set up as yet - will get him.

I have about 10 of him Kiwi is you need one  ;)

Ah - thanks for the offer mate - did get a fresh one on open bid. Cheers for that.
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: TheBaldyBuddha on October 18, 2017, 10:45:13 am
So as i have been saying only played SB mostly so far not played 1 game in Div's and only 3 online 2 of which i RQ, as i played my SB games last night had nothing to do today, decided to give the WLQ a go, first up 8 of one nationality nearly gave up there threw this together

(https://gyazo.com/b661e742b88efe017b6df505cb935dbf.png)

First round pen after 3 mins i score he quits

second round good player but Icardi scores 2, he gets one back in the 87th min i hold out to win with 10 men.

Semi again another good player we go back an forth 2-2 then Icardi scores his 3rd and i go down to 10 men again but i break away and chip his keeper for a 4th and he quits.

So i'm in a final at my first attempt  :o :o typical BPL fifa 17 team including Butland who BTW is crap in 18 but they still use him  ;D  3 up by HT another Icardi hattrick very comfortable until around the 75th min he scores 2 quickfire goals and i think here we go but no i hold out to win it and qualify for the WL.

Surely the quality of opponent is better than this, anyhow don't think i will play any don't have a strong enough team and can't be arsed  :D
Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: Kiwi on October 18, 2017, 12:20:56 pm
Well done ... I think :P

Title: Re: FUT Champions 2018
Post by: otutsarTR on October 18, 2017, 04:56:22 pm
good job Buddha, btw hart is the new butland, fyi : )